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		<title>By: Does The New York Times Have 10K Subscribers On Amazon&#8217;s Kindle? &#124; 4x PDF Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does The New York Times Have 10K Subscribers On Amazon&#8217;s Kindle? &#124; 4x PDF Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab is reporting (although unconfirmed at this stage) that there are 10,000 Kindle owners subscribed to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why e-editions are so 2001 &#124; Write -30-</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why e-editions are so 2001 &#124; Write -30-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you want to experiment with digital distribution, fine. Do it with technology that has the potential for growth &#8212; like the Kindle. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Finally Kindle outside the US &#124; Ebook Readers: Kindle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finally Kindle outside the US &#124; Ebook Readers: Kindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Kindle DX won&#8217;t save the news industry, but that&#8217;s not the point: a guide to our coverage of e-readers &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-14370</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kindle DX won&#8217;t save the news industry, but that&#8217;s not the point: a guide to our coverage of e-readers &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November, we revealed that The New York Times had &#8220;more than 10,000 paid subscribers&#8221; on the Kindle for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kindle 3 - Textbook Reader or Newspaper Reader? &#171; Kindle 2 Review - Kindle Books, Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-14172</link>
		<dc:creator>Kindle 3 - Textbook Reader or Newspaper Reader? &#171; Kindle 2 Review - Kindle Books, Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even on the small 6&#8243; Kindle screens were doing well (last year there was a leak (via Neiman Journalism Lab) that 10,000 NYTimes Kindle Subscriptions were [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kindlerama &#187; Big screen Kindle coming this Wednesday?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kindlerama &#187; Big screen Kindle coming this Wednesday?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The New York Times already has had substantial success with subscriptions on the Kindle. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rumor: Amazon to Debut Larger Kindle on Wednesday &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-14121</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumor: Amazon to Debut Larger Kindle on Wednesday &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fall, Times had approximately 10,000 Kindle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why e-editions are so 2001 &#171; -30- &#124; Adventures at the end of journalism.</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-12667</link>
		<dc:creator>Why e-editions are so 2001 &#171; -30- &#124; Adventures at the end of journalism.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you want to experiment with digital distribution, fine. Do it with technology that has the potential for growth &#8212; like the Kindle. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got the Kindle 2.0. It is optimized for reading. In fact highlighting, saving to clippings is very easy. I haven&#039;t figured out the way to get the clips onto the computer but I&#039;m pretty sure there is a way.

My take is that it is an awesome reading appliance. The problem for a newspaper is that readers are a niche market. A nicely growing niche. But not the mass market that Paper has. 

As Bezos has described in interviews the Kindle is for reading long form stories - essays to books. 

I think we should all keep an eye on the epaper device that Hearst will be introducing later this year. From early descriptions it should be much more newspaper business friendly.</description>
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<p>My take is that it is an awesome reading appliance. The problem for a newspaper is that readers are a niche market. A nicely growing niche. But not the mass market that Paper has. </p>
<p>As Bezos has described in interviews the Kindle is for reading long form stories &#8211; essays to books. </p>
<p>I think we should all keep an eye on the epaper device that Hearst will be introducing later this year. From early descriptions it should be much more newspaper business friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Micropayments for news &#124; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-7783</link>
		<dc:creator>Micropayments for news &#124; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basis, and the results so far seem to point to viability for this model: The New York Times has reportedly signed up 10,000 Kindle readers, or about 1 percent of its 1,000,000 paid circulation base.  It shares the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AndresCavelier.com » La guerra por los libros electrónicos</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndresCavelier.com » La guerra por los libros electrónicos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The New York Times ya tiene 10.000 suscriptores a través del Kindle, cada uno de los cuales paga 13.99 dólares mensuales por el servicio, un ingreso anual de 1.68 millones de dólares que Amazon y el Times [...]</description>
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		<title>By: E-paper: Why won&#8217;t the future hurry up and get here already? &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>E-paper: Why won&#8217;t the future hurry up and get here already? &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s a possible route to getting readers to pay for the news again. As we reported in November, the Times has more than 10,000 subscribers on the Kindle, each paying $13.99 a month [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Micropayments for news &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-4785</link>
		<dc:creator>Micropayments for news &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basis, and the results so far seem to point to viability for this model: The New York Times has reportedly signed up 10,000 Kindle readers, or about 1 percent of its 1,000,000 paid circulation base.  It shares the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sudha.K &#187; Why aren&#8217;t Canadian Newspapers On Amazon Kindle?</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>sudha.K &#187; Why aren&#8217;t Canadian Newspapers On Amazon Kindle?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NYT’s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Kindle Chronicles - 19 Linda Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Kindle Chronicles - 19 Linda Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ordered today turn out to be a Kindle 2.0? Should Amazon say so? Also, a secret New York Times memo reports more than 10,000 Kindle NYT subscriptions (thanks to Abhi for the tip), and Kindle NowNow is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ordered today turn out to be a Kindle 2.0? Should Amazon say so? Also, a secret New York Times memo reports more than 10,000 Kindle NYT subscriptions (thanks to Abhi for the tip), and Kindle NowNow is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kindling Journalism&#8217;s Future : The New Nixon: News and Commentary about the President, his Times, and his Legacy</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>Kindling Journalism&#8217;s Future : The New Nixon: News and Commentary about the President, his Times, and his Legacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The New York Times has 10,000 Kindle subscribers. But experts wonder if Amazon is selling enough of the electronic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger &#124; Library Stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger &#124; Library Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab - &#8220;Given that the electronic Times costs $13.99 a month, that would mean the NYT Kindle edition is generating in the neighborhood of $1.68 million a year. How much of that goes to NYT Co. and how much stays with Amazon is unclear.&#8221; (via)   Posted in Kindle &#124; &#124; Top Of Page [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab &#8211; &#8220;Given that the electronic Times costs $13.99 a month, that would mean the NYT Kindle edition is generating in the neighborhood of $1.68 million a year. How much of that goes to NYT Co. and how much stays with Amazon is unclear.&#8221; (via)   Posted in Kindle | | Top Of Page [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the Kindle, but let&#039;s not get too excited about eInk - it is very limited.  Can&#039;t do color, can&#039;t do video - never will be able to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the Kindle, but let&#8217;s not get too excited about eInk &#8211; it is very limited.  Can&#8217;t do color, can&#8217;t do video &#8211; never will be able to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: More on NYT&#8217;s Facebook push &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>More on NYT&#8217;s Facebook push &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the new world, out of our control. They&#8217;re going come to us however they want — on mobile, on a Kindle, on the iPhone, in the paper, and certainly on the site. And so we&#8217;re going to try to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the new world, out of our control. They&#8217;re going come to us however they want — on mobile, on a Kindle, on the iPhone, in the paper, and certainly on the site. And so we&#8217;re going to try to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 10,000 Kindle Subscriptions &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>10,000 Kindle Subscriptions &#171; The Scholarly Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A recent post on the Nieman Journalism Lab site detailed one fact out of an internal New York Times memo: the New York Times has approximately 10,000 paid subscribers via Amazon&#8217;s Kindle, with another 2,000 paid subscribers getting blogs via the device. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A recent post on the Nieman Journalism Lab site detailed one fact out of an internal New York Times memo: the New York Times has approximately 10,000 paid subscribers via Amazon&#8217;s Kindle, with another 2,000 paid subscribers getting blogs via the device. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Are we ready for Amazon&#8217;s Kindle &#124; Kindle from Amazon Ebook Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Are we ready for Amazon&#8217;s Kindle &#124; Kindle from Amazon Ebook Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rod overton</title>
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		<dc:creator>rod overton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the PDF versions were big a few years ago (publishers were DYING for them) I did a study.

I called many, many newspapers while I was at the Miami Herald as we (unfortunately) scrambled to launch a pdf version at the SCREAMING of Alberto Ibarguen.

I determined that we would be lucky or &quot;on the mark&quot; if we got 1 percent of 1 percent of our PRINT readership to adopt the pdf version.

A year later. Exactly correct numbers.

Fast forward from 2004 to 2008 in Charleston, S.C. and the Post and Courier.

I was VP for Content for the digital division that owns that paper, several other papers and about 9 TV stations.

I asked the head of Charleston.net what the subs were for the pdf version of Post and Courier...

want to guess what it worked out to?

1 percent of 1 percent of the overall PRINT subs.

Amazing.

I bet Kindle ends up less than that.

10,000 SOUNDS like a lot, but do some math and it&#039;s nothing compared to the PRINT subs...

Think PEOPLE. 

Oh, and the project at the Miami Herald that Alberto ORDERED cost $70,000 to implement. I later determined we could have FedEx&#039;d each pdf subscriber a copy of the print newspaper OVERNIGHT for an entire year for less than developing the stupid pdf version.

Good job Alberto! Look at where the Herald (and Knight Ridder) are now!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the PDF versions were big a few years ago (publishers were DYING for them) I did a study.</p>
<p>I called many, many newspapers while I was at the Miami Herald as we (unfortunately) scrambled to launch a pdf version at the SCREAMING of Alberto Ibarguen.</p>
<p>I determined that we would be lucky or &#8220;on the mark&#8221; if we got 1 percent of 1 percent of our PRINT readership to adopt the pdf version.</p>
<p>A year later. Exactly correct numbers.</p>
<p>Fast forward from 2004 to 2008 in Charleston, S.C. and the Post and Courier.</p>
<p>I was VP for Content for the digital division that owns that paper, several other papers and about 9 TV stations.</p>
<p>I asked the head of Charleston.net what the subs were for the pdf version of Post and Courier&#8230;</p>
<p>want to guess what it worked out to?</p>
<p>1 percent of 1 percent of the overall PRINT subs.</p>
<p>Amazing.</p>
<p>I bet Kindle ends up less than that.</p>
<p>10,000 SOUNDS like a lot, but do some math and it&#8217;s nothing compared to the PRINT subs&#8230;</p>
<p>Think PEOPLE. </p>
<p>Oh, and the project at the Miami Herald that Alberto ORDERED cost $70,000 to implement. I later determined we could have FedEx&#8217;d each pdf subscriber a copy of the print newspaper OVERNIGHT for an entire year for less than developing the stupid pdf version.</p>
<p>Good job Alberto! Look at where the Herald (and Knight Ridder) are now!!!</p>
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		<title>By: NYT’s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? &#124; Zinio Industry Resource</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYT’s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? &#124; Zinio Industry Resource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NYT’s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Len Edgerly</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Edgerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, point taken.  When I say Kindle 2 should be more like a book, I have in mind a sort of magical book - a book that does everything the old books did, just better.  So yes, annotations and bookmarks and lookup are key. What I don&#039;t think will help is to add features just because they&#039;re possible, even if they do not do &quot;bookish&quot; things. That&#039;s why I&#039;m glad Bezos says there will be no video on the Kindle.  It should remain about reading, only more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, point taken.  When I say Kindle 2 should be more like a book, I have in mind a sort of magical book &#8211; a book that does everything the old books did, just better.  So yes, annotations and bookmarks and lookup are key. What I don&#8217;t think will help is to add features just because they&#8217;re possible, even if they do not do &#8220;bookish&#8221; things. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m glad Bezos says there will be no video on the Kindle.  It should remain about reading, only more so.</p>
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		<title>By: Selling E-books on Amazon.com &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selling E-books on Amazon.com &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but there are rumors that a bunch of ebook readers are about to hit the market.  Of course, some think that the Kindle is a gimmick which is yet to make a mass market [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but there are rumors that a bunch of ebook readers are about to hit the market.  Of course, some think that the Kindle is a gimmick which is yet to make a mass market [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Beaudoin</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Beaudoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kindle 2 should be more like a book, Len? No, it should be better than a book. To get me to give up paper, an e-reader has to be better. If the Kindle could combine e-ink and the functionality of Diigo.com -- the ability to bookmark text on the Web OR in an e-book or e-newspaper, annotate it and share it with colleagues -- that would be the perfect combination of device and service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kindle 2 should be more like a book, Len? No, it should be better than a book. To get me to give up paper, an e-reader has to be better. If the Kindle could combine e-ink and the functionality of Diigo.com &#8212; the ability to bookmark text on the Web OR in an e-book or e-newspaper, annotate it and share it with colleagues &#8212; that would be the perfect combination of device and service.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Edgerly</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Edgerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rudolph Bell: It&#039;s the E Ink, stupid. The reason I and (apparently) lots of others are willing to pay for newspaper content on my Kindle but not on the web is that reading on the Kindle is easier on the eyes and mind.  Another intangible advantage for the Kindle is that Amazon has brilliantly positioned it as a READING device, not a computer.  Because of that, when I load content to the Kindle, I feel as if it&#039;s &quot;mine,&quot; whether I found it for free on a site like FeedBooks, or I paid for it at the Amazon store.  Because of this sense of ownership, I am much more likely to pay for a newspaper subscription on my Kindle, and that&#039;s why it may offer newspapers and magazines a desperately needed new business model.  I subscribe to the FT and the Washington Post (thanks to their free offer at the election; I got hooked on their home-town advantage in D.C. political coverage.)

The key to this new golden goose for the NYT and others is NOT to fix the browser and make the Kindle more like a computer. It&#039;s to make sure Kindle 2 is even MORE like a book, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rudolph Bell: It&#8217;s the E Ink, stupid. The reason I and (apparently) lots of others are willing to pay for newspaper content on my Kindle but not on the web is that reading on the Kindle is easier on the eyes and mind.  Another intangible advantage for the Kindle is that Amazon has brilliantly positioned it as a READING device, not a computer.  Because of that, when I load content to the Kindle, I feel as if it&#8217;s &#8220;mine,&#8221; whether I found it for free on a site like FeedBooks, or I paid for it at the Amazon store.  Because of this sense of ownership, I am much more likely to pay for a newspaper subscription on my Kindle, and that&#8217;s why it may offer newspapers and magazines a desperately needed new business model.  I subscribe to the FT and the Washington Post (thanks to their free offer at the election; I got hooked on their home-town advantage in D.C. political coverage.)</p>
<p>The key to this new golden goose for the NYT and others is NOT to fix the browser and make the Kindle more like a computer. It&#8217;s to make sure Kindle 2 is even MORE like a book, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a graphic communications professional, newspaper industry expert, graduate student at NYU, and basic all around 30 year old human being, I do not know ONE SINGLE person who owns a Kindle.



Total Sales as of Today’s date:
240,000 Kindles
1,000,000 Zunes (microsoft’s mp3 player that no one owns)
6,124,000 iPhones
163,000,000 iPods</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a graphic communications professional, newspaper industry expert, graduate student at NYU, and basic all around 30 year old human being, I do not know ONE SINGLE person who owns a Kindle.</p>
<p>Total Sales as of Today’s date:<br />
240,000 Kindles<br />
1,000,000 Zunes (microsoft’s mp3 player that no one owns)<br />
6,124,000 iPhones<br />
163,000,000 iPods</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Press for November 26th &#124; booktwo.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop Press for November 26th &#124; booktwo.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NYT?s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? - The New York Times charges $13.99 for a month&#8217;s subscription on the Kindle - and it&#8217;s got more than 10,000 of them. Nieman Journalism Lab, via Teleread. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NYT?s 10K subscribers on Kindle: The start of something bigger? &#8211; The New York Times charges $13.99 for a month&#8217;s subscription on the Kindle &#8211; and it&#8217;s got more than 10,000 of them. Nieman Journalism Lab, via Teleread. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolph Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/11/nyts-10k-subscribers-on-kindle-the-start-of-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudolph Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty of Kindle is that we are finally getting traction on a mobile, updatable device that is a good environment for serious readers and therefore a good environment for newspapers, whose customers have always been serious readers.

The attention-deficit-disorder environment of a Web site (and the iPhone) is not a good environment for serious readers and text-heavy newspaper content. (See Nicholas Carr&#039;s Atlantic magazine cover for July/August.)

That&#039;s the reason, I suspect, people don&#039;t spend as much time on newspaper Web sites as they do with the print product. Heavy reading in that environment is just not as enjoyable as it is in print.

Because of eInk technology, however, the Kindle&#039;s electronic screen can duplicate the experience of reading ink on paper.

Jeff Bezos designed the Kindle to replicate the experience of getting absorbed in a book. The same device, of course, can replicate the experience of getting absorbed in a newspaper.

It&#039;s the eInk, stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of Kindle is that we are finally getting traction on a mobile, updatable device that is a good environment for serious readers and therefore a good environment for newspapers, whose customers have always been serious readers.</p>
<p>The attention-deficit-disorder environment of a Web site (and the iPhone) is not a good environment for serious readers and text-heavy newspaper content. (See Nicholas Carr&#8217;s Atlantic magazine cover for July/August.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the reason, I suspect, people don&#8217;t spend as much time on newspaper Web sites as they do with the print product. Heavy reading in that environment is just not as enjoyable as it is in print.</p>
<p>Because of eInk technology, however, the Kindle&#8217;s electronic screen can duplicate the experience of reading ink on paper.</p>
<p>Jeff Bezos designed the Kindle to replicate the experience of getting absorbed in a book. The same device, of course, can replicate the experience of getting absorbed in a newspaper.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the eInk, stupid!</p>
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