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	<title>Comments on: Citizen media: Not there yet</title>
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		<title>By: No one left to keep an eye on the killing streets of Baltimore &#124; Bill Doskoch: Media, BPS*, Film, Minutiae</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-209923</link>
		<dc:creator>No one left to keep an eye on the killing streets of Baltimore &#124; Bill Doskoch: Media, BPS*, Film, Minutiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For more on that, read this Neiman Journalism Lab post from December: Citizen media: Not there yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For more on that, read this Neiman Journalism Lab post from December: Citizen media: Not there yet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Study: U.S. Media Need New Biz Models &#171; media.vane.ws</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>Study: U.S. Media Need New Biz Models &#171; media.vane.ws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab, Harvard University is releasing a study exploring the emerging digital media environment. Citizen media is &#8220;not doing everything we have counted on journalism institutions to do.&#8221; Meanwhile, journalism institutions &#8220;are in serious trouble.&#8221; It is time to &#8220;look at models from other countries.&#8221; Go to Source [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab, Harvard University is releasing a study exploring the emerging digital media environment. Citizen media is &#8220;not doing everything we have counted on journalism institutions to do.&#8221; Meanwhile, journalism institutions &#8220;are in serious trouble.&#8221; It is time to &#8220;look at models from other countries.&#8221; Go to Source [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mediawiseguy</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>mediawiseguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalism education continues to fail in preparing students for the real world.They turn out,mostly, women who want to be anchors.Rarely produce assignment editors or producers. They foster the &quot;maxheadroom&quot; ,one man bands which subvert quality journalism.
There is no common ground of information, no cognate requirements of merit, and few who can write anything.
So, is it time for a complete overall of the j-school approach? Bloggers have offered little to the quest for unbiased, reporting. A generation able to produce content for any platform, needs to face an anaylsis of the value of their utterances.
This report offers insight, but where, oh where are the solutions, certainly not in the offices of the current leadership of our universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism education continues to fail in preparing students for the real world.They turn out,mostly, women who want to be anchors.Rarely produce assignment editors or producers. They foster the &#8220;maxheadroom&#8221; ,one man bands which subvert quality journalism.<br />
There is no common ground of information, no cognate requirements of merit, and few who can write anything.<br />
So, is it time for a complete overall of the j-school approach? Bloggers have offered little to the quest for unbiased, reporting. A generation able to produce content for any platform, needs to face an anaylsis of the value of their utterances.<br />
This report offers insight, but where, oh where are the solutions, certainly not in the offices of the current leadership of our universities.</p>
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		<title>By: eric kai</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>eric kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is not if participatory media is trying to potentially replacing traditional media but when will traditional media start understanding the bloggers and how to be utilize them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is not if participatory media is trying to potentially replacing traditional media but when will traditional media start understanding the bloggers and how to be utilize them.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Beatty</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Beatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ian:  &quot;Bloggers&quot; is a tough term - so we get into semantics.  But, a trianed, credentialed, reputable journalist is a trained, credentialed, reputable journalist.  Some bloggers and social media creators are all or some of the above, but the entire crowd is certainly not.  Best, Luke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ian:  &#8220;Bloggers&#8221; is a tough term &#8211; so we get into semantics.  But, a trianed, credentialed, reputable journalist is a trained, credentialed, reputable journalist.  Some bloggers and social media creators are all or some of the above, but the entire crowd is certainly not.  Best, Luke</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This analysis falsely assumes that participatory media is trying to / potentially capable of replacing traditional media.&quot;

Luke, I think you need to tell that to bloggers like TechCrunch and Alleyinsider. They would probably argue against your notion.

Bloggers DO think they are mainstream media now. It&#039;s very unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This analysis falsely assumes that participatory media is trying to / potentially capable of replacing traditional media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Luke, I think you need to tell that to bloggers like TechCrunch and Alleyinsider. They would probably argue against your notion.</p>
<p>Bloggers DO think they are mainstream media now. It&#8217;s very unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Beatty</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2008/12/citizen-media-not-there-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Beatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This analysis falsely assumes that participatory media is trying to / potentially capable of replacing traditional media.  It cannot replace traditional media.  Most participatory media operations do not endeavor to supplant it. Participatory / social media&#039;s successes metrics are not the same as traditional media&#039;s.      

-Luke Beatty
Founder &amp; President, Associated Content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This analysis falsely assumes that participatory media is trying to / potentially capable of replacing traditional media.  It cannot replace traditional media.  Most participatory media operations do not endeavor to supplant it. Participatory / social media&#8217;s successes metrics are not the same as traditional media&#8217;s.      </p>
<p>-Luke Beatty<br />
Founder &amp; President, Associated Content</p>
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