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	<title>Comments on: GateHouse exec Kirk Davis: &#8220;What do you think, we’re stupid? Of course we like linking&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Journalism law &#171; Global Vue</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-72092</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism law &#171; Global Vue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Times to apartment therapy New York Times on excerpting Will copyright become obsolete this year? Gatehouse, The New York Times and aggregating headlines  More on Gatehouse and The New York [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon Mattey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Mattey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s been reading the &quot;I haven&#039;t a clue train manifesto&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s been reading the &#8220;I haven&#8217;t a clue train manifesto&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nico Flores</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-6826</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico Flores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gatehouse may have been trying to stop boston.com taking away front-page traffic from Wicked: make boston.com&#039;s FP poorer by forcing it to have less links. Question is, will Wicked&#039;s FP pick up traffic after this? 

Ad nauseam here: http://ondemandmedia.typepad.com/odm/2009/02/the-gatehouse-n.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gatehouse may have been trying to stop boston.com taking away front-page traffic from Wicked: make boston.com&#8217;s FP poorer by forcing it to have less links. Question is, will Wicked&#8217;s FP pick up traffic after this? </p>
<p>Ad nauseam here: <a href="http://ondemandmedia.typepad.com/odm/2009/02/the-gatehouse-n.html" rel="nofollow">http://ondemandmedia.typepad.com/odm/2009/02/the-gatehouse-n.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: lillybug</title>
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		<dc:creator>lillybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gatehouse (GH) has made a lot of poor decisions. First, they bought too many papers. The analysts found out how much debt they really had, and took a look at how they intended to pay it (ad revenue).. enough said.

Secondly, GH goes out and gives Davis $460K to run GH. More than double his predesesor. At a time when they are having layoffs, benefit cuts thus killing their own newspapers slowly.

Now this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gatehouse (GH) has made a lot of poor decisions. First, they bought too many papers. The analysts found out how much debt they really had, and took a look at how they intended to pay it (ad revenue).. enough said.</p>
<p>Secondly, GH goes out and gives Davis $460K to run GH. More than double his predesesor. At a time when they are having layoffs, benefit cuts thus killing their own newspapers slowly.</p>
<p>Now this.</p>
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		<title>By: Der BetaBlog im temporären Exil auf Hundertfünfzig Worte</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-6056</link>
		<dc:creator>Der BetaBlog im temporären Exil auf Hundertfünfzig Worte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] des &#8220;fair use&#8221;, argumentierte GateHouse, deren Verantwortliche sich nach dem Vergleich bemühten zu betonen, sie hätten natürlich überhaupt nichts gegen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] des &#8220;fair use&#8221;, argumentierte GateHouse, deren Verantwortliche sich nach dem Vergleich bemühten zu betonen, sie hätten natürlich überhaupt nichts gegen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scot hacker&#8217;s foobar blog &#187; Who Owns Your RSS?</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-5621</link>
		<dc:creator>scot hacker&#8217;s foobar blog &#187; Who Owns Your RSS?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] distinction between automated insertion of headlines and ledes (e.g. via RSS embeds) vs. the &#8220;human effort&#8221; required to quote a few grafs in a story body. Personally, I don&#8217;t see how the two are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] distinction between automated insertion of headlines and ledes (e.g. via RSS embeds) vs. the &#8220;human effort&#8221; required to quote a few grafs in a story body. Personally, I don&#8217;t see how the two are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Yonts</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-4838</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Yonts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GateHouse Media really needs to understand the basics of Internet Marketing -- along with the rest of the publishing community. What they have done is effectively this:

1. Harmed their SEO ranking -- external link ins from high PR sites that conatin key phrases in the link text.
2. Ensured fewer eyeballs are viewing their ads and zero co-operation from other content providers (Boston.com, NY Times, etc).
3. Motivated a better positioned outlet to more aggressively go after their market -- which shouldn&#039;t be hard since they don&#039;t understand how Internet Marketing works.
4. Put their advertisers on notice that they&#039;d prefer to have fewer people to see their offer.

Its just amazing! Today, they&#039;re claiming victory for having weakened their online channel. Not to worry, though. Their newspaper circulation will pick up soon...after all, the Internet is merely a fad. Luckily, they have smart lawyers that understand this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GateHouse Media really needs to understand the basics of Internet Marketing &#8212; along with the rest of the publishing community. What they have done is effectively this:</p>
<p>1. Harmed their SEO ranking &#8212; external link ins from high PR sites that conatin key phrases in the link text.<br />
2. Ensured fewer eyeballs are viewing their ads and zero co-operation from other content providers (Boston.com, NY Times, etc).<br />
3. Motivated a better positioned outlet to more aggressively go after their market &#8212; which shouldn&#8217;t be hard since they don&#8217;t understand how Internet Marketing works.<br />
4. Put their advertisers on notice that they&#8217;d prefer to have fewer people to see their offer.</p>
<p>Its just amazing! Today, they&#8217;re claiming victory for having weakened their online channel. Not to worry, though. Their newspaper circulation will pick up soon&#8230;after all, the Internet is merely a fad. Luckily, they have smart lawyers that understand this.</p>
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		<title>By: Links: Davis vs. Jarvis &#171; Wir sprechen Online.</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-4728</link>
		<dc:creator>Links: Davis vs. Jarvis &#171; Wir sprechen Online.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] .EN, Net, IT, Publishing, Web, Quotes, Links   Davis: “What do you think, we’re stupid?”; http://tr.im/d8hk - Jarvis: &#8220;Yes&#8221;; http://tr.im/d8hh &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] .EN, Net, IT, Publishing, Web, Quotes, Links   Davis: “What do you think, we’re stupid?”; <a href="http://tr.im/d8hk" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/d8hk</a> &#8211; Jarvis: &#8220;Yes&#8221;; <a href="http://tr.im/d8hh" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/d8hh</a> &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Printed Matters &#187; Gatehouse has a point</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/gatehouse-exec-kirk-davis-what-do-you-think-we%e2%80%99re-stupid-of-course-we-like-linking/comment-page-1/#comment-4695</link>
		<dc:creator>Printed Matters &#187; Gatehouse has a point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suing the New York Times over deep linking or even linking.  As Gatehouse president Kirk Davis said: You’ve got to be kidding me. What do you think, we’re stupid? Of course we like linking and of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] suing the New York Times over deep linking or even linking.  As Gatehouse president Kirk Davis said: You’ve got to be kidding me. What do you think, we’re stupid? Of course we like linking and of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mescher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Mescher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis said, “you’d see comments like, ‘GateHouse is against linking.’ You’ve got to be kidding me. What do you think, we’re stupid? Of course we like linking and of course we support linking.”

...aggregarting is a powerful source of link building.  

I&#039;m surprised someone would choose to deny links for any reason (well, ok, maybe if they were coming from a devil worshipping ministry...but from the New York Times company?).

I wonder if Kirk Davis has read &#039;The Clue Train Manifesto&#039;.  It&#039;s a great read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis said, “you’d see comments like, ‘GateHouse is against linking.’ You’ve got to be kidding me. What do you think, we’re stupid? Of course we like linking and of course we support linking.”</p>
<p>&#8230;aggregarting is a powerful source of link building.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised someone would choose to deny links for any reason (well, ok, maybe if they were coming from a devil worshipping ministry&#8230;but from the New York Times company?).</p>
<p>I wonder if Kirk Davis has read &#8216;The Clue Train Manifesto&#8217;.  It&#8217;s a great read.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim@Galavanting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim@Galavanting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...bye Gatehouse. Was a nice run while you had it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;bye Gatehouse. Was a nice run while you had it.</p>
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		<title>By: ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What strikes me is that technological power is subordinated to some other principle.  As with medical ethics, what we can do needs to be in service to what we should do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What strikes me is that technological power is subordinated to some other principle.  As with medical ethics, what we can do needs to be in service to what we should do.</p>
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