Comments on: Will media companies use GateHouse settlement as a negotiating hammer? http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GateWhat and why do you care? : Somerville Blog http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-26591 GateWhat and why do you care? : Somerville Blog Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:58:14 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-26591 [...] Journalism Lab: This could be bad for the little blogger. And it’s just [...] [...] Journalism Lab: This could be bad for the little blogger. And it’s just [...]

]]> By: The Gatehouse Settlement & RSS Scraping | PlagiarismToday http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4550 The Gatehouse Settlement & RSS Scraping | PlagiarismToday Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:50:04 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4550 [...] clues as to the direction we are heading in with RSS aggregation, especially when you consider it’s potential use as a negotiation tool in future [...] [...] clues as to the direction we are heading in with RSS aggregation, especially when you consider it’s potential use as a negotiation tool in future [...]

]]> By: Wrap-up: GateHouse/NYT Co. Q&A » Nieman Journalism Lab » Pushing to the Future of Journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4535 Wrap-up: GateHouse/NYT Co. Q&A » Nieman Journalism Lab » Pushing to the Future of Journalism Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:55:39 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4535 [...] the case was settled, it does not set a legal precedent, but as Josh discussed earlier, GateHouse v. NYT Co. will undoubtedly weigh on future legal disputes over linking and news [...] [...] the case was settled, it does not set a legal precedent, but as Josh discussed earlier, GateHouse v. NYT Co. will undoubtedly weigh on future legal disputes over linking and news [...]

]]> By: Why you care about GateHouse vs the New York Times : Wicked Local Blog http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4278 Why you care about GateHouse vs the New York Times : Wicked Local Blog Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:58:29 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4278 [...] Journalism Lab: This could be bad for the little blogger. And it’s just [...] [...] Journalism Lab: This could be bad for the little blogger. And it’s just [...]

]]> By: Joshua Benton http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4264 Joshua Benton Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:06:35 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4264 Stephen, I mention the stock price only to show that GateHouse is a smaller player than the NYT and lots of other institutions. If a relatively small company like GateHouse can get the NYT to change, then a relatively bigger media player might be even more likely to pursue similar action against other web sites. Stephen, I mention the stock price only to show that GateHouse is a smaller player than the NYT and lots of other institutions. If a relatively small company like GateHouse can get the NYT to change, then a relatively bigger media player might be even more likely to pursue similar action against other web sites.

]]> By: Stephen Larson http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4257 Stephen Larson Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:56:37 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4257 Why is the price of Gatehouse stock important enough to even mention? Headlines and the first paragraph are the heart of a news story, scraping them in an automated fashion to create pages without anything else on them is NOT fair use. I only wish this had gone all the way to a decision but you can't blame Gatehouse for settling, they got what they wanted. Why is the price of Gatehouse stock important enough to even mention?

Headlines and the first paragraph are the heart of a news story, scraping them in an automated fashion to create pages without anything else on them is NOT fair use.

I only wish this had gone all the way to a decision but you can’t blame Gatehouse for settling, they got what they wanted.

]]> By: GateHouse-NYT Co. deal: A bad precedent for the web » Nieman Journalism Lab » Pushing to the Future of Journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4256 GateHouse-NYT Co. deal: A bad precedent for the web » Nieman Journalism Lab » Pushing to the Future of Journalism Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:56:09 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4256 [...] refraining from what many would argue is perfectly defensible behaviour. As Joshua Benton notes in his post here, that could well embolden other publications to launch similar cases, on the assumption that if the [...] [...] refraining from what many would argue is perfectly defensible behaviour. As Joshua Benton notes in his post here, that could well embolden other publications to launch similar cases, on the assumption that if the [...]

]]> By: Martin Langeveld http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/01/will-media-companies-use-gatehouse-settlement-as-a-negotiating-hammer/comment-page-1/#comment-4244 Martin Langeveld Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:54:35 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=1277#comment-4244 Regarding the apparent banning of any and all quotations: Actually, the agreement doesn't explicitly discuss quoting (the word is not in there), it just governs copying. So I think the convoluted structure in Section 1 (technical discussions about Solutions; notification that the Solutions don't work; NYT then has to abide by whatever the Solutions were intended to prevent) is a way of preventing the existing copying practice, while preserving fair use quoting, such as in news story, column, editorial or blog post. I'm not a lawyer, either, but I think copying and quoting need to be read in the context of the Copyright Act here. Regarding the apparent banning of any and all quotations: Actually, the agreement doesn’t explicitly discuss quoting (the word is not in there), it just governs copying. So I think the convoluted structure in Section 1 (technical discussions about Solutions; notification that the Solutions don’t work; NYT then has to abide by whatever the Solutions were intended to prevent) is a way of preventing the existing copying practice, while preserving fair use quoting, such as in news story, column, editorial or blog post. I’m not a lawyer, either, but I think copying and quoting need to be read in the context of the Copyright Act here.

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