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		<title>By: New Media Business Watch &#124; No Medium Spared</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-72677</link>
		<dc:creator>New Media Business Watch &#124; No Medium Spared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Twitter: Can chaos be a biz model? Martin Langeveld, Nieman Journalism Lab, Feb. 16, 2009 [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Twitter: Can chaos be a biz model? Martin Langeveld, Nieman Journalism Lab, Feb. 16, 2009 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-63731</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think twitter is overrated.</description>
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		<title>By: liuto</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-32987</link>
		<dc:creator>liuto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can twitter do for you?</description>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-14117</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twitter it chat.  plain and simple.  twitter is online chat without the mental construct of small &quot;rooms&quot;.  twitter is instantaneous crap pouring out of the minds and through the fingers of the great unwashed masses.  CHAT...in the guise of a &quot;mini instant blog&quot; all in one big room.... thats all it is. except now....news organizations and corporations are all trying to figure out how to make money on it.  they are creating little &quot;rooms&quot; themselves in which you can &quot;follow&quot; them and add your &quot;contribution&quot; to whatever they are doing or saying at the time.  well, im no &quot;follower&quot; and i need more than 140 characters to say my piece... and who gives a rats ass what the &quot;great unwashed&quot; is doing now?  twitter is for twits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twitter it chat.  plain and simple.  twitter is online chat without the mental construct of small &#8220;rooms&#8221;.  twitter is instantaneous crap pouring out of the minds and through the fingers of the great unwashed masses.  CHAT&#8230;in the guise of a &#8220;mini instant blog&#8221; all in one big room&#8230;. thats all it is. except now&#8230;.news organizations and corporations are all trying to figure out how to make money on it.  they are creating little &#8220;rooms&#8221; themselves in which you can &#8220;follow&#8221; them and add your &#8220;contribution&#8221; to whatever they are doing or saying at the time.  well, im no &#8220;follower&#8221; and i need more than 140 characters to say my piece&#8230; and who gives a rats ass what the &#8220;great unwashed&#8221; is doing now?  twitter is for twits.</p>
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		<title>By: Quels usages de Twitter pour la presse en ligne ?&#160;&#124;&#160;Benoît Drouillat</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-12900</link>
		<dc:creator>Quels usages de Twitter pour la presse en ligne ?&#160;&#124;&#160;Benoît Drouillat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] procède d&#8217;une certaine forme de chaos, comme l&#8217;écrit justement Martin Langeveld sur NiemanJournalismLab. CNN et The Nashua Telegraph ont figuré parmi les premiers médias traditionnaux à utiliser le [...]</description>
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<p>[...] procède d&#8217;une certaine forme de chaos, comme l&#8217;écrit justement Martin Langeveld sur NiemanJournalismLab. CNN et The Nashua Telegraph ont figuré parmi les premiers médias traditionnaux à utiliser le [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The content cascade: How content will flow in digital news enterprises &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>The content cascade: How content will flow in digital news enterprises &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] content presentation as a “stream”; Twitter’s is clearly streamlike; but both are random and chaotic, as well, and both must be seen as elements of the raw material level of the content cascade — [...]</description>
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<p>[...] content presentation as a “stream”; Twitter’s is clearly streamlike; but both are random and chaotic, as well, and both must be seen as elements of the raw material level of the content cascade — [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Some thoughts on Twitter from Nieman Journalism Lab and HP Labs &#171; HBS Marketing &#38; Communications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some thoughts on Twitter from Nieman Journalism Lab and HP Labs &#171; HBS Marketing &#38; Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pm on February 20, 2009 &#124; # &#124;   Tags: Nieman Journalism Lab, Social Networks, Twitter   Twitter: Can chaos be a biz model? Nieman Journalism Lab&#8217;s Martin Langeveld explores &#8216;Twelve Good Things about [...]</description>
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<p>[...] pm on February 20, 2009 | # |   Tags: Nieman Journalism Lab, Social Networks, Twitter   Twitter: Can chaos be a biz model? Nieman Journalism Lab&#8217;s Martin Langeveld explores &#8216;Twelve Good Things about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-7954</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jay -- as far as I can tell we can&#039;t extract top individual referrers from Twitter; the stats just tell us Twitter is the most active referral source.  For this particular post most of the referring tweets come up in a Twitter search for &quot;Twitter chaos&quot;.

Agreed about chaos, which is why I listed it among the 12 Good Things.  It&#039;s counterintuitive.  Essentially Twitter just pushes out a raw data stream and lets others create organizational tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jay &#8212; as far as I can tell we can&#8217;t extract top individual referrers from Twitter; the stats just tell us Twitter is the most active referral source.  For this particular post most of the referring tweets come up in a Twitter search for &#8220;Twitter chaos&#8221;.</p>
<p>Agreed about chaos, which is why I listed it among the 12 Good Things.  It&#8217;s counterintuitive.  Essentially Twitter just pushes out a raw data stream and lets others create organizational tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiphereth</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-7953</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiphereth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post. You have nailed so many aspects of the social anthropology of Twitter. Just like the anthropologists of old used to sit around and absorb the everyday life of tribes around them to develop ethnography of the culture, Twitter has become an ethnographic channel of everyone&#039;s minutiae. I wrote on tweetups helping one&#039;s social life http://www.digitaltip.com.au/index.php/7-ways-twitter-helps-you-with-your-social-life/
and you also may be interested in this great post on Twitter monetizing via search http://lewmoorman.com/googles-first-real-threat-twit?c=1
P.S. There is always pattern in chaos, no matter how meaningless it may be to others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post. You have nailed so many aspects of the social anthropology of Twitter. Just like the anthropologists of old used to sit around and absorb the everyday life of tribes around them to develop ethnography of the culture, Twitter has become an ethnographic channel of everyone&#8217;s minutiae. I wrote on tweetups helping one&#8217;s social life <a href="http://www.digitaltip.com.au/index.php/7-ways-twitter-helps-you-with-your-social-life/" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitaltip.com.au/index.php/7-ways-twitter-helps-you-with-your-social-life/</a><br />
and you also may be interested in this great post on Twitter monetizing via search <a href="http://lewmoorman.com/googles-first-real-threat-twit?c=1" rel="nofollow">http://lewmoorman.com/googles-first-real-threat-twit?c=1</a><br />
P.S. There is always pattern in chaos, no matter how meaningless it may be to others</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-7934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see a list of those top referrers from Twitter :-)

But the observation I wanted to offer is about the chaos that you speak of.  The great advantage of chaos is the low coordination costs.

Think about it. I enjoy your stuff, Martin. So keep it up.

Jhttp://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see a list of those top referrers from Twitter :-)</p>
<p>But the observation I wanted to offer is about the chaos that you speak of.  The great advantage of chaos is the low coordination costs.</p>
<p>Think about it. I enjoy your stuff, Martin. So keep it up.</p>
<p>Jhttp://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/02/twitter-can-chaos-be-a-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-7932</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter is in its 4 round of funding and has generated $55 million in start up capital without making one dime. They don&#039;t have a monetization model and rumors state that Twitter is gearing up to charge commercial users a subscription fee. They are hoping to create a revenue model with Spark Capitals $35 million in investment. If you take a hard look at this economy and technology, one player that is making money is Google. Internet advertising is a $57 billion dollar industry and growing. Google &amp; Yahoo both recently stated that the future in is &quot;human edited search&quot; and http://www.Boomja.com may have created the formula for the next big internet company. Check out this article by David Krechevsky; http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2009/02/12/business/397274.txt (not the full story), David may have stumbled on to the future of search and Boomja.com has a monetization model that works. According to David, Boomja is a combination of &quot;Google and Wikipedia&quot;, think of it as a Wikipedia on steroids.  Users organize the internet and make half of the advertising dollars.  Limitless content, Limitless jobs, limitless income, now that is the future of search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter is in its 4 round of funding and has generated $55 million in start up capital without making one dime. They don&#8217;t have a monetization model and rumors state that Twitter is gearing up to charge commercial users a subscription fee. They are hoping to create a revenue model with Spark Capitals $35 million in investment. If you take a hard look at this economy and technology, one player that is making money is Google. Internet advertising is a $57 billion dollar industry and growing. Google &amp; Yahoo both recently stated that the future in is &#8220;human edited search&#8221; and <a href="http://www.Boomja.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Boomja.com</a> may have created the formula for the next big internet company. Check out this article by David Krechevsky; <a href="http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2009/02/12/business/397274.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2009/02/12/business/397274.txt</a> (not the full story), David may have stumbled on to the future of search and Boomja.com has a monetization model that works. According to David, Boomja is a combination of &#8220;Google and Wikipedia&#8221;, think of it as a Wikipedia on steroids.  Users organize the internet and make half of the advertising dollars.  Limitless content, Limitless jobs, limitless income, now that is the future of search.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think chaos does describe twitter, but I guess I like chaos. I like the energy.

I agree with your list, Martin. Twenty-five percent of my blog traffic at savethemedia.com is referred through twitter. Even better is when someone retweets me (or several someones with lots of followers.) Now will those new viewers of my blog become my regular readers? Who knows. But it helps.

I also have found potential sources through twitter, got offered a free-lancing job, a speaking engagement and an interview through twitter. All because someone found my blog through twitter.

Plus, I just find it a whole lot of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think chaos does describe twitter, but I guess I like chaos. I like the energy.</p>
<p>I agree with your list, Martin. Twenty-five percent of my blog traffic at savethemedia.com is referred through twitter. Even better is when someone retweets me (or several someones with lots of followers.) Now will those new viewers of my blog become my regular readers? Who knows. But it helps.</p>
<p>I also have found potential sources through twitter, got offered a free-lancing job, a speaking engagement and an interview through twitter. All because someone found my blog through twitter.</p>
<p>Plus, I just find it a whole lot of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Approaching 100 on twitter. &#171; Agents For Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Approaching 100 on twitter. &#171; Agents For Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] watching my tweetdeck: • 10 tips on how to use twitter • How not to suck so badly at twitter • Twelve Good Things about Twitter • Discourse on whether or not Web 2.0 is TOO powerful (whatever the hell that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mediablogi - links for 2009-02-16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mediablogi - links for 2009-02-16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Twitter: can chaos be a business model? Voiko Twitterin kaaoksessa on liiketoiminnaksi? Hyvä kysymys. Toistaiseksi ei ole ollut eikä rahoittajilla tunnu olevan kiirekään bisnesmallin löytämisessä. Jaikun ostanut Google ei löytänyt Jaikulle tarpeeksi hyvää bisnesmallia ja siirsi sen harrastajien harrastukseksi. Järjestystä luova Facebookin sanotaan olevan paremmin rahaa luova. Tämä ei kuitenkaan tarkoita etteikö Twitterin ympärille pystyisi luomaan luovaa liiketoimintamallia. Kestihän Googlenkin liiketoimintamallin luominen aikansa. Tulevaisuus näyttää. (tags: tulevaisuus mediabisnes twitter microblogging) [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Twitter: can chaos be a business model? Voiko Twitterin kaaoksessa on liiketoiminnaksi? Hyvä kysymys. Toistaiseksi ei ole ollut eikä rahoittajilla tunnu olevan kiirekään bisnesmallin löytämisessä. Jaikun ostanut Google ei löytänyt Jaikulle tarpeeksi hyvää bisnesmallia ja siirsi sen harrastajien harrastukseksi. Järjestystä luova Facebookin sanotaan olevan paremmin rahaa luova. Tämä ei kuitenkaan tarkoita etteikö Twitterin ympärille pystyisi luomaan luovaa liiketoimintamallia. Kestihän Googlenkin liiketoimintamallin luominen aikansa. Tulevaisuus näyttää. (tags: tulevaisuus mediabisnes twitter microblogging) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reference to Jason Pollock. As far as &quot;awareness&quot; goes, I would suggest Facebook is awareness of your extended social world and Twitter bring a more complex, unknown, and larger world.</description>
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