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		<title>By: The Associated Press tries courtside crowdsourcing Sotomayor coverage &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/03/ron-royhab-newspapers-like-kindergartners-need-to-share/comment-page-1/#comment-22304</link>
		<dc:creator>The Associated Press tries courtside crowdsourcing Sotomayor coverage &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212; and primacy &#8212; of its massive bread-and-butter (and moneymaking) content operation. As we&#8217;ve seen, independent AP initiatives haven&#8217;t always met with the approval of individual AP members [...]</description>
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<p>[...] &#8212; and primacy &#8212; of its massive bread-and-butter (and moneymaking) content operation. As we&#8217;ve seen, independent AP initiatives haven&#8217;t always met with the approval of individual AP members [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A legal primer: No consistent winner in the turf wars between sports leagues and news organizations &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>A legal primer: No consistent winner in the turf wars between sports leagues and news organizations &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been talk about newspapers and high school athletic associations sharing content and resources. Many news organizations that once saw themselves as bitter rivals &#8212; now facing enormous financial challenges &#8212; [...]</description>
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<p>[...] has been talk about newspapers and high school athletic associations sharing content and resources. Many news organizations that once saw themselves as bitter rivals &#8212; now facing enormous financial challenges &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; links for 2009-03-17&#160;&#8212;&#160;contentious.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ron Royhab: Newspapers, like kindergartners, need to share &#124; Nieman Journalism Lab &quot;The Toledo Blade has gotten notice in the past year for being one of the eight founding members of the Ohio News Organization, a collaborative in which the state’s major papers freely share their stories (and now their photos and graphics) with one another. All the Ohio papers have seen major cutbacks in recent years — The Blade’s newsroom staff is about half the size it was five years ago — and their willingness to beat swords into plowshares has been a model for other cooperatives around the country among papers with declining resources. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Ron Royhab: Newspapers, like kindergartners, need to share | Nieman Journalism Lab &quot;The Toledo Blade has gotten notice in the past year for being one of the eight founding members of the Ohio News Organization, a collaborative in which the state’s major papers freely share their stories (and now their photos and graphics) with one another. All the Ohio papers have seen major cutbacks in recent years — The Blade’s newsroom staff is about half the size it was five years ago — and their willingness to beat swords into plowshares has been a model for other cooperatives around the country among papers with declining resources. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Smartnews, why now? &#171; SMARTING OFF</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/03/ron-royhab-newspapers-like-kindergartners-need-to-share/comment-page-1/#comment-9895</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Smartnews, why now? &#171; SMARTING OFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5:01 pm &#183; Filed under Freelance, Publishing, The news biz, Unfettered stupidity, smartnews   AP&#8217;s feelin&#8217; the hate. And then we were talking about the high cost of the Associated Press and we were all upset. The [...]</description>
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<p>[...] 5:01 pm &#183; Filed under Freelance, Publishing, The news biz, Unfettered stupidity, smartnews   AP&#8217;s feelin&#8217; the hate. And then we were talking about the high cost of the Associated Press and we were all upset. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How one newspaper is adjusting to life without the Associated Press &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/03/ron-royhab-newspapers-like-kindergartners-need-to-share/comment-page-1/#comment-9873</link>
		<dc:creator>How one newspaper is adjusting to life without the Associated Press &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments on one of our posts, I heard about one paper that had already cut AP entirely out of its pages: The Norwalk Reflector, [...]</description>
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<p>[...] the comments on one of our posts, I heard about one paper that had already cut AP entirely out of its pages: The Norwalk Reflector, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AndyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for publishing this. It&#039;s a good idea, though disappointing that the Ohio 8 have not allowed smaller papers into the group. My 9,000-circ. daily dropped AP last month (after giving our 2 year notice)  for the same reasons the big papers cited for taking the actions they did. We are midway between Toledo and Cleveland, on the outskirts of both their markets, and while it would be nice to have access to some of thier state content, we don&#039;t have to have it. Incidentally, we dropped AP about three weeks ago and have not received a single call about it...we are obtaining agate from PA Sportsticker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for publishing this. It&#8217;s a good idea, though disappointing that the Ohio 8 have not allowed smaller papers into the group. My 9,000-circ. daily dropped AP last month (after giving our 2 year notice)  for the same reasons the big papers cited for taking the actions they did. We are midway between Toledo and Cleveland, on the outskirts of both their markets, and while it would be nice to have access to some of thier state content, we don&#8217;t have to have it. Incidentally, we dropped AP about three weeks ago and have not received a single call about it&#8230;we are obtaining agate from PA Sportsticker.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some questions: 

1. What are the other sources of revenue for the AP aside from subscriptions from newspapers.

2. Does the following sound right to anyone who is full time in the game? (I&#039;m just a semi-retired blogger so it&#039;s hard to tell if I&#039;m just drinking my own kool-aid)

I&#039;ve always believed the real value of a great newspaper is the day to day editing and the paper distribution system within a defined physical space. Add to that local beat blogging in defined space and the picture is complete.

Once the papers share instead of compete on content, they can focus limited resources on writing, editing and becoming both the best domain experts on their communities and learning to speak the specific authentic language of their users. 

With the occasional Pulitzer Prize, when the right story meets the right reporter at the right time.

On the business side, my hypothesis is that local business print ads should be an easy sell at the right price, but at present the cost of sales is too high and too slow and makes the selling price of ads too high for the market.

Any reactions- pro or con - would be much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some questions: </p>
<p>1. What are the other sources of revenue for the AP aside from subscriptions from newspapers.</p>
<p>2. Does the following sound right to anyone who is full time in the game? (I&#8217;m just a semi-retired blogger so it&#8217;s hard to tell if I&#8217;m just drinking my own kool-aid)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always believed the real value of a great newspaper is the day to day editing and the paper distribution system within a defined physical space. Add to that local beat blogging in defined space and the picture is complete.</p>
<p>Once the papers share instead of compete on content, they can focus limited resources on writing, editing and becoming both the best domain experts on their communities and learning to speak the specific authentic language of their users. </p>
<p>With the occasional Pulitzer Prize, when the right story meets the right reporter at the right time.</p>
<p>On the business side, my hypothesis is that local business print ads should be an easy sell at the right price, but at present the cost of sales is too high and too slow and makes the selling price of ads too high for the market.</p>
<p>Any reactions- pro or con &#8211; would be much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see lots of potential for this idea of sharing ... I know people worry about lack of competition, but the truth is competition died in most markets years ago. 

And, as you point out, now papers can get their competitors news through AP -- just for a high cost.

I see a lot of potential for this sharing in features departments. I cover parenting, and most of what I write about is relevant to any parent of young kids -- they don&#039;t have to be in my community. I could easily develop sources in a neighboring city and include them as voices to scratch the local itch.

Same with health or music or books or food or state government or the environment ... the list goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see lots of potential for this idea of sharing &#8230; I know people worry about lack of competition, but the truth is competition died in most markets years ago. </p>
<p>And, as you point out, now papers can get their competitors news through AP &#8212; just for a high cost.</p>
<p>I see a lot of potential for this sharing in features departments. I cover parenting, and most of what I write about is relevant to any parent of young kids &#8212; they don&#8217;t have to be in my community. I could easily develop sources in a neighboring city and include them as voices to scratch the local itch.</p>
<p>Same with health or music or books or food or state government or the environment &#8230; the list goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: AP responds to Royhab (and NJL) &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP responds to Royhab (and NJL) &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Colford, the AP&#8217;s director of media relations, has asked to respond to the interview I did with The Toledo Blade&#8217;s Ron Royhab about the Ohio News Organization (OHNO), the news-sharing cooperative formed by the state&#8217;s [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Colford, the AP&#8217;s director of media relations, has asked to respond to the interview I did with The Toledo Blade&#8217;s Ron Royhab about the Ohio News Organization (OHNO), the news-sharing cooperative formed by the state&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NiemanJournalismLab: &#8216;Newspapers, like kindergartners, need to share&#8217; &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiemanJournalismLab: &#8216;Newspapers, like kindergartners, need to share&#8217; &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joshua Benton interviews his old boss, executive editor of the Toledo Blade, Ron Royhab, &#8220;about how the sharing has evolved, how it has changed the way newspapers chase stories, and whether there might be a way to monetize the work they do.&#8221; Video with transcript highlights. Full story at this link&#8230; [...]</description>
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