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		<title>By: NYT vs. WSJ: the quietest newspaper war in America &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYT vs. WSJ: the quietest newspaper war in America &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its news coverage and remade its front page. Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of the Journal, told me in April: What Rupert Murdoch has done is come in and say, look, you’re missing a big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its news coverage and remade its front page. Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of the Journal, told me in April: What Rupert Murdoch has done is come in and say, look, you’re missing a big [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Talking Biz News &#187; WSJ is no longer a second read newspaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talking Biz News &#187; WSJ is no longer a second read newspaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more here.   Posted by Chris Roush [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Editor executivo do The Wall Street Journal fala, em vídeo, sobre perfil de jornalistas on line &#124; Converge Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/04/why-the-wall-street-journal-would-report-on-the-bobbitt-case-today/comment-page-1/#comment-12805</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor executivo do The Wall Street Journal fala, em vídeo, sobre perfil de jornalistas on line &#124; Converge Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Na semana passada, nós publicamos dois vídeos da minha entrevista com Alan Murray, editor executivo do The Wall Street Journal. Neste terceiro vídeo, ele falar sobre as qualidades desejáveis para um repórter on line. Leia a íntegra da entrevista abaixo, ou o vídeo ao final desta página.  Last week we published two videos from my interview with Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of The Wall Street Journal, covering his wisdom on charging for content and his thoughts on changes at the Journal under Rupert Murdoch. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Na semana passada, nós publicamos dois vídeos da minha entrevista com Alan Murray, editor executivo do The Wall Street Journal. Neste terceiro vídeo, ele falar sobre as qualidades desejáveis para um repórter on line. Leia a íntegra da entrevista abaixo, ou o vídeo ao final desta página.  Last week we published two videos from my interview with Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of The Wall Street Journal, covering his wisdom on charging for content and his thoughts on changes at the Journal under Rupert Murdoch. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The new skillset for online reporters: speed, marketing, audience-building, tweeting, and &#8220;having a good time&#8221; &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/04/why-the-wall-street-journal-would-report-on-the-bobbitt-case-today/comment-page-1/#comment-12536</link>
		<dc:creator>The new skillset for online reporters: speed, marketing, audience-building, tweeting, and &#8220;having a good time&#8221; &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week we published two videos from my interview with Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of The Wall Street Journal, covering his wisdom on charging for content and his thoughts on changes at the Journal under Rupert Murdoch. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Prager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Prager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Murray refers to a New York Observer article that quoted me. &quot;Josh was quoted... at one point almost bragging about the fact that one year, two years ago, he only wrote one story in a year.&quot; That is not correct. Here is my full quote: “There’s definitely concern that the longer special pieces at The Journal are going to be reined in. It is a concern for me as a person who likes writing them and likes reading them.” It was the Observer that noted I had written one piece that year. 

Meantime, Zachary Seward characterizes my farewell note as &quot;scathing.&quot; But nothing about the note is scathing. It is a lament, not a screed. 

Sincerely,

Joshua Prager</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Murray refers to a New York Observer article that quoted me. &#8220;Josh was quoted&#8230; at one point almost bragging about the fact that one year, two years ago, he only wrote one story in a year.&#8221; That is not correct. Here is my full quote: “There’s definitely concern that the longer special pieces at The Journal are going to be reined in. It is a concern for me as a person who likes writing them and likes reading them.” It was the Observer that noted I had written one piece that year. </p>
<p>Meantime, Zachary Seward characterizes my farewell note as &#8220;scathing.&#8221; But nothing about the note is scathing. It is a lament, not a screed. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Joshua Prager</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Ludd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Ludd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To respond to a disingenuous point that Murray made about how the new direction is adding readers &#8212; the Journal was also increasing circulation with its previous focus on long form and analysis; people generally prefer reading long articles in print instead of on a computer screen. The paper was also profitable, so it was a sustainable business model (Dow Jones itself, however, had lost a bundle on some of its other investments). However, Dow Jones and subsequently News Corp decided that cheap articles are more profitable than long features, so the changes are about increasing profits, not increasing readers.

I subscribed to WSJ since the early 1990&#039;s, but gave it up when they did the &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.dowjones.com/Pressroom/PressReleases/Other/US/2007/0102_US_TheWallStreetJournal_8660.htm&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2007 redesign&lt;/a&gt;, about a year before Murdoch bought the paper. The articles became shorter and less informative. It went from being &lt;strong&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;/strong&gt; to just another newspaper.

There&#039;s still plenty of long form journalism out there, such as Simon Johnson&#039;s &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article in The Atlantic&lt;/a&gt; about the finance industry, Michael Lewis&#039;s &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/iceland200904&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article in Vanity Fair&lt;/a&gt; about Iceland&#039;s de facto bankruptcy, or Guy Lawson&#039;s &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24012731/the_war_next_door&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;excellent article in Rolling Stone&lt;/a&gt; about the drug war in Mexico. All these articles went viral on the Internet, becoming incredibly popular, which shows that there is pent up demand for long form even on the web. These are the types of articles I used to find daily in the Wall Street Journal, but now it&#039;s more like a glorified wire service.

There&#039;s still a newspaper called &quot;The Wall Street Journal&quot;, and it superficially looks somewhat the same as it did before, but it&#039;s not even a shell of its former self &#8212; more like a &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPl8G5cvdNw&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pod person&lt;/a&gt; that&#039;s taken over the original body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to a disingenuous point that Murray made about how the new direction is adding readers &mdash; the Journal was also increasing circulation with its previous focus on long form and analysis; people generally prefer reading long articles in print instead of on a computer screen. The paper was also profitable, so it was a sustainable business model (Dow Jones itself, however, had lost a bundle on some of its other investments). However, Dow Jones and subsequently News Corp decided that cheap articles are more profitable than long features, so the changes are about increasing profits, not increasing readers.</p>
<p>I subscribed to WSJ since the early 1990&#8242;s, but gave it up when they did the <a href='http://www.dowjones.com/Pressroom/PressReleases/Other/US/2007/0102_US_TheWallStreetJournal_8660.htm' rel="nofollow">2007 redesign</a>, about a year before Murdoch bought the paper. The articles became shorter and less informative. It went from being <strong>The Wall Street Journal</strong> to just another newspaper.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still plenty of long form journalism out there, such as Simon Johnson&#8217;s <a href='http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice' rel="nofollow">article in The Atlantic</a> about the finance industry, Michael Lewis&#8217;s <a href='http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/iceland200904' rel="nofollow">article in Vanity Fair</a> about Iceland&#8217;s de facto bankruptcy, or Guy Lawson&#8217;s <a href='http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24012731/the_war_next_door' rel="nofollow">excellent article in Rolling Stone</a> about the drug war in Mexico. All these articles went viral on the Internet, becoming incredibly popular, which shows that there is pent up demand for long form even on the web. These are the types of articles I used to find daily in the Wall Street Journal, but now it&#8217;s more like a glorified wire service.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still a newspaper called &#8220;The Wall Street Journal&#8221;, and it superficially looks somewhat the same as it did before, but it&#8217;s not even a shell of its former self &mdash; more like a <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPl8G5cvdNw' rel="nofollow">pod person</a> that&#8217;s taken over the original body.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach - On the web, I&#039;m not sure that the concepts of &quot;first reads&quot; and &quot;second reads&quot; matter that much.  So the important question is how many people will find the WSJ to be special and unique enough to subscribe.  I think the answer, whatever it is, will have to do with how many people read the WSJ for business news and analysis as opposed to financial news, analysis, and data.  I doubt the latter are going anywhere because of the changes.  The former, among whom I count myself - people who read the Journal more for its coverage of American business in general as opposed to its coverage of Wall Street and the financial markets) - are much more likely to stop reading the Journal because its that coverage that is being replaced by the more general news.  But I have no sense of how many people fit into this group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach &#8211; On the web, I&#8217;m not sure that the concepts of &#8220;first reads&#8221; and &#8220;second reads&#8221; matter that much.  So the important question is how many people will find the WSJ to be special and unique enough to subscribe.  I think the answer, whatever it is, will have to do with how many people read the WSJ for business news and analysis as opposed to financial news, analysis, and data.  I doubt the latter are going anywhere because of the changes.  The former, among whom I count myself &#8211; people who read the Journal more for its coverage of American business in general as opposed to its coverage of Wall Street and the financial markets) &#8211; are much more likely to stop reading the Journal because its that coverage that is being replaced by the more general news.  But I have no sense of how many people fit into this group.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see if it is general interest news or news that is of interest to their growing base of readers. The real trick will be not to crowd out the kernels to do the &quot;interesting, but not important&quot;.

For me, the kernel of the WSJ are the News in Brief and World in Brief. Not so much for what happened, but for what the Journal editors thought were the most important things that happened. Given that I believe that what the Journal thinks is important will become the common wisdom on Wall Street, that&#039;s an always interesting data point.

Same thing with the news-on-paper NY Times. Page 1 column 8 was what they thought was the most important thing that happened. Page 1 column 1 was the most important thing in the region that happened. Now that the Times gives you the print version architecture on the web, I can get them same info from the click.

Since the Times still defines the common wisdom in Washington and &quot;intellectuals&quot; what is really interesting to me is what they choose. Not so much what they say.

As for long form, one real story per issue would be enough for me to pay either in print or on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see if it is general interest news or news that is of interest to their growing base of readers. The real trick will be not to crowd out the kernels to do the &#8220;interesting, but not important&#8221;.</p>
<p>For me, the kernel of the WSJ are the News in Brief and World in Brief. Not so much for what happened, but for what the Journal editors thought were the most important things that happened. Given that I believe that what the Journal thinks is important will become the common wisdom on Wall Street, that&#8217;s an always interesting data point.</p>
<p>Same thing with the news-on-paper NY Times. Page 1 column 8 was what they thought was the most important thing that happened. Page 1 column 1 was the most important thing in the region that happened. Now that the Times gives you the print version architecture on the web, I can get them same info from the click.</p>
<p>Since the Times still defines the common wisdom in Washington and &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; what is really interesting to me is what they choose. Not so much what they say.</p>
<p>As for long form, one real story per issue would be enough for me to pay either in print or on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: mark baard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark baard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice piece, zachary, there are some lessons in here for the rest of us, outside the hallowed wsj. i will share this with my journalism students...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice piece, zachary, there are some lessons in here for the rest of us, outside the hallowed wsj. i will share this with my journalism students&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the perspective, Greg. You&#039;re definitely not alone. My uncle, who read the paper almost entirely for its front-page leders, is ready to give up on the Journal now. However, my dad feels strongly that the Journal has improved under Murdoch and particularly enjoys the increased international coverage. 

I fall squarely in the middle because I&#039;m dismayed that there are fewer features but appreciate the expanded hard news on the rare occasion that I pick up the Journal&#039;s print edition. Back when, I&#039;d buy the Times for my news and the Journal for my analysis, at a total of $2. Now that would cost me $3.50 with no money left for coffee, so I just get the Journal — which of course attests to the Murdoch strategy.

However, as you note, our individual experiences with the Journal aren&#039;t particularly relevant. If the goal is maximum circulation, then general-interest news that appeals to a broader readership is probably the right move. It&#039;s hard enough to survive as a first-read newspaper these days; is there any hope at all in being a second read? —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the perspective, Greg. You&#8217;re definitely not alone. My uncle, who read the paper almost entirely for its front-page leders, is ready to give up on the Journal now. However, my dad feels strongly that the Journal has improved under Murdoch and particularly enjoys the increased international coverage. </p>
<p>I fall squarely in the middle because I&#8217;m dismayed that there are fewer features but appreciate the expanded hard news on the rare occasion that I pick up the Journal&#8217;s print edition. Back when, I&#8217;d buy the Times for my news and the Journal for my analysis, at a total of $2. Now that would cost me $3.50 with no money left for coffee, so I just get the Journal — which of course attests to the Murdoch strategy.</p>
<p>However, as you note, our individual experiences with the Journal aren&#8217;t particularly relevant. If the goal is maximum circulation, then general-interest news that appeals to a broader readership is probably the right move. It&#8217;s hard enough to survive as a first-read newspaper these days; is there any hope at all in being a second read? —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By shifting from unique content to widely replicable stories, is the Journal slowly relinquishing its competitive advantage in a news business that privileges singularity?&quot;

Yes.

I&#039;ve subscribed to the Journal for almost a decade now because of its uniqueness.  I&#039;ve spent 50% less time reading the Journal in the last 6 months than I did in any previous 6-month period during that decade.  I have no interest in reading a WSJ that&#039;s an enhanced wire service.

There are other things I don&#039;t like, like the substitution of photographs for the pen-and-ink portraits.  But those aren&#039;t dealbreakers.  The loss of the articles that made me fell obligated to read the Journal, and guilty when I missed an edition, very well could be a dealbraker.

I don&#039;t claim to speak for anyone else, but I don&#039;t believe I&#039;m the only reader I know that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By shifting from unique content to widely replicable stories, is the Journal slowly relinquishing its competitive advantage in a news business that privileges singularity?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve subscribed to the Journal for almost a decade now because of its uniqueness.  I&#8217;ve spent 50% less time reading the Journal in the last 6 months than I did in any previous 6-month period during that decade.  I have no interest in reading a WSJ that&#8217;s an enhanced wire service.</p>
<p>There are other things I don&#8217;t like, like the substitution of photographs for the pen-and-ink portraits.  But those aren&#8217;t dealbreakers.  The loss of the articles that made me fell obligated to read the Journal, and guilty when I missed an edition, very well could be a dealbraker.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to speak for anyone else, but I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m the only reader I know that way.</p>
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