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		<title>By: Jonathan Stray &#187; Newsroom vs. Web Culture Clash</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-64487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Stray &#187; Newsroom vs. Web Culture Clash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Froomkin of the Washington Post has summed this up masterfully by saying that the web &#8220;abhors lack of voice.&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Assaig sobre mitjans i fotoperiodisme, per David Campbell &#171; Memòries de Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assaig sobre mitjans i fotoperiodisme, per David Campbell &#171; Memòries de Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</description>
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<p>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices &#124; No Bull. news service.</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-53249</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices &#124; No Bull. news service.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s [...]</description>
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<p>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emptywheel &#187; Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-41552</link>
		<dc:creator>Emptywheel &#187; Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s Dan: But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly [...]</description>
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<p>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s Dan: But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Revolutions in the media economy (1) &#8211; the context of crisis &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-34624</link>
		<dc:creator>Revolutions in the media economy (1) &#8211; the context of crisis &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</description>
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<p>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; RSS 001</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-22350</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; RSS 001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers : “But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point - a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.” [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers : “But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point &#8211; a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HuffPost hires &#8216;passionate&#8217; newspaperman &#171; Whitireia Journalism School</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-22093</link>
		<dc:creator>HuffPost hires &#8216;passionate&#8217; newspaperman &#171; Whitireia Journalism School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writes that journalists were put on the Earth to &#8220;seek the truth, hold the powerful accountable, [...]</description>
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<p>[...] writes that journalists were put on the Earth to &#8220;seek the truth, hold the powerful accountable, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons from Froomkin &#8211; Henkimaa</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-20639</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons from Froomkin &#8211; Henkimaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new (blogger) media &#8212; at least when it adhered to the same values, identified in his essay Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers thusly: The right way to reinvent ourselves online would be to do precisely what journalists were [...]</description>
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<p>[...] new (blogger) media &#8212; at least when it adhered to the same values, identified in his essay Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers thusly: The right way to reinvent ourselves online would be to do precisely what journalists were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve long thought that the way the old media spins the news &quot;both sides of the story&quot; is ludicrous.
There are probably three sides at least.
1. What actually happened
2. What party A would like you to think happened. 
3. What party B would like you to think happened.
etc.

Journalism should be primarily concerned with 1.

It&#039;s been hi-jacked by 2 and 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long thought that the way the old media spins the news &#8220;both sides of the story&#8221; is ludicrous.<br />
There are probably three sides at least.<br />
1. What actually happened<br />
2. What party A would like you to think happened.<br />
3. What party B would like you to think happened.<br />
etc.</p>
<p>Journalism should be primarily concerned with 1.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been hi-jacked by 2 and 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barbour</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-19996</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think another really big problem is that professional print journalists have a truly romantic view of the quality of their collective work.  What passes for news reporting and analysis in the daily papers is really pretty poor stuff, and the public at some level understands that.  Leaving aside the typographical errors, ignorance of basic science and history are on regular display, as well as unspoken assumptions that are tantamount to propaganda.  

There are some areas in which the daily newspaper will never be challenged by the Internet; without daily print newspapers we would have to find something else to wrap fish, put in the bottom of paper trash bags, and spread on the kitchen countertop to soak up grease spatters while cooking.  On the other hand, with the new-fangled inks the newspapers aren&#039;t much good for polishing lamp chimneys or windows any more, and we got used to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another really big problem is that professional print journalists have a truly romantic view of the quality of their collective work.  What passes for news reporting and analysis in the daily papers is really pretty poor stuff, and the public at some level understands that.  Leaving aside the typographical errors, ignorance of basic science and history are on regular display, as well as unspoken assumptions that are tantamount to propaganda.  </p>
<p>There are some areas in which the daily newspaper will never be challenged by the Internet; without daily print newspapers we would have to find something else to wrap fish, put in the bottom of paper trash bags, and spread on the kitchen countertop to soak up grease spatters while cooking.  On the other hand, with the new-fangled inks the newspapers aren&#8217;t much good for polishing lamp chimneys or windows any more, and we got used to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; Digest I Realize</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; Digest I Realize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers: “But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point - a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.” I think you could replace newsroom references with classrooms... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: stevendkrause.com &#187; The internet doesn&#8217;t work on a daily schedule and it likes a voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevendkrause.com &#187; The internet doesn&#8217;t work on a daily schedule and it likes a voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a long prelude to a very good commentary by Dan Froomkin, &#8220;Why &#8216;playing it safe&#8217; is killing American newspapers.&#8221; Besides talking about the money issues, Froomkin says smart stuff like this:  But we’re hiding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: That failing newspaper industry&#8230; - elearnspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>That failing newspaper industry&#8230; - elearnspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers: &#8220;But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point — a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.&#8221; I think you could replace newsroom references with classrooms&#8230; [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers: &#8220;But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point — a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.&#8221; I think you could replace newsroom references with classrooms&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Documenting the Demise of Newspapers : Beyond Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>Documenting the Demise of Newspapers : Beyond Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] word in the goose pond. You can find “Why “Playing It Safe” Is Killing American Newspapers” here. For me, the most interesting comment in the write up was this passage: If we were to start an [...]</description>
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<p>[...] word in the goose pond. You can find “Why “Playing It Safe” Is Killing American Newspapers” here. For me, the most interesting comment in the write up was this passage: If we were to start an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay Shirkey:  Media that&#039;s targeted at you but doesn&#039;t include you may not be worth sitting still for.</description>
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