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		<title>By: Dan Froomkin spoke the truth, shined the light in the MSM darkness to win Wings of Justice &#171; Democracy Soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Froomkin spoke the truth, shined the light in the MSM darkness to win Wings of Justice &#171; Democracy Soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] month, Froomkin weighed in on how &#8220;playing it safe&#8221; is killing American newspapers. There was one passage that spoke not only to the future of journalism, but also summed up what he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Stray &#187; Newsroom vs. Web Culture Clash</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-64487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Stray &#187; Newsroom vs. Web Culture Clash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Froomkin of the Washington Post has summed this up masterfully by saying that the web &#8220;abhors lack of voice.&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Assaig sobre mitjans i fotoperiodisme, per David Campbell &#171; Memòries de Brooklyn</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-53838</link>
		<dc:creator>Assaig sobre mitjans i fotoperiodisme, per David Campbell &#171; Memòries de Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices &#124; No Bull. news service.</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-53249</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices &#124; No Bull. news service.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Emptywheel &#187; Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-41552</link>
		<dc:creator>Emptywheel &#187; Dan Froomkin: Anachronistic Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disagree with Atrios&#8217; take on this great Dan Froomkin piece. Here&#8217;s Dan: But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Revolutions in the media economy (1) &#8211; the context of crisis &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-34624</link>
		<dc:creator>Revolutions in the media economy (1) &#8211; the context of crisis &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not forget that the idea of objectivity as the defining characteristic of journalism was also central to corporate strategies in the post-war period – the best way to maximise audiences for advertisers was to draw readers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; RSS 001</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-22350</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; RSS 001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers : “But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point - a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HuffPost hires &#8216;passionate&#8217; newspaperman &#171; Whitireia Journalism School</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-22093</link>
		<dc:creator>HuffPost hires &#8216;passionate&#8217; newspaperman &#171; Whitireia Journalism School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writes that journalists were put on the Earth to &#8220;seek the truth, hold the powerful accountable, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lessons from Froomkin &#8211; Henkimaa</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-20639</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons from Froomkin &#8211; Henkimaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new (blogger) media &#8212; at least when it adhered to the same values, identified in his essay Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers thusly: The right way to reinvent ourselves online would be to do precisely what journalists were [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve long thought that the way the old media spins the news &quot;both sides of the story&quot; is ludicrous.
There are probably three sides at least.
1. What actually happened
2. What party A would like you to think happened. 
3. What party B would like you to think happened.
etc.

Journalism should be primarily concerned with 1.

It&#039;s been hi-jacked by 2 and 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve long thought that the way the old media spins the news &#8220;both sides of the story&#8221; is ludicrous.<br />
There are probably three sides at least.<br />
1. What actually happened<br />
2. What party A would like you to think happened.<br />
3. What party B would like you to think happened.<br />
etc.</p>
<p>Journalism should be primarily concerned with 1.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been hi-jacked by 2 and 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barbour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Barbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think another really big problem is that professional print journalists have a truly romantic view of the quality of their collective work.  What passes for news reporting and analysis in the daily papers is really pretty poor stuff, and the public at some level understands that.  Leaving aside the typographical errors, ignorance of basic science and history are on regular display, as well as unspoken assumptions that are tantamount to propaganda.  

There are some areas in which the daily newspaper will never be challenged by the Internet; without daily print newspapers we would have to find something else to wrap fish, put in the bottom of paper trash bags, and spread on the kitchen countertop to soak up grease spatters while cooking.  On the other hand, with the new-fangled inks the newspapers aren&#039;t much good for polishing lamp chimneys or windows any more, and we got used to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another really big problem is that professional print journalists have a truly romantic view of the quality of their collective work.  What passes for news reporting and analysis in the daily papers is really pretty poor stuff, and the public at some level understands that.  Leaving aside the typographical errors, ignorance of basic science and history are on regular display, as well as unspoken assumptions that are tantamount to propaganda.  </p>
<p>There are some areas in which the daily newspaper will never be challenged by the Internet; without daily print newspapers we would have to find something else to wrap fish, put in the bottom of paper trash bags, and spread on the kitchen countertop to soak up grease spatters while cooking.  On the other hand, with the new-fangled inks the newspapers aren&#8217;t much good for polishing lamp chimneys or windows any more, and we got used to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; Digest I Realize</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Literacy: Making Sense Of New Technologies And Media by George Siemens - Jun 13 09 &#124; Digest I Realize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers: “But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point - a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.” I think you could replace newsroom references with classrooms... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: stevendkrause.com &#187; The internet doesn&#8217;t work on a daily schedule and it likes a voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevendkrause.com &#187; The internet doesn&#8217;t work on a daily schedule and it likes a voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a long prelude to a very good commentary by Dan Froomkin, &#8220;Why &#8216;playing it safe&#8217; is killing American newspapers.&#8221; Besides talking about the money issues, Froomkin says smart stuff like this:  But we’re hiding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: That failing newspaper industry&#8230; - elearnspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>That failing newspaper industry&#8230; - elearnspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why “playing it safe” is killing American newspapers: &#8220;But we’re hiding much of our newsrooms’ value behind a terribly anachronistic format: voiceless, incremental news stories that neither get much traffic nor make our sites compelling destinations. While the dispassionate, what-happened-yesterday, inverted-pyramid daily news story still has some marginal utility, it’s mostly a throwback at this point — a relic of a daily product delivered on paper to a geographically limited community.&#8221; I think you could replace newsroom references with classrooms&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Documenting the Demise of Newspapers : Beyond Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>Documenting the Demise of Newspapers : Beyond Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] word in the goose pond. You can find “Why “Playing It Safe” Is Killing American Newspapers” here. For me, the most interesting comment in the write up was this passage: If we were to start an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay Shirkey:  Media that&#039;s targeted at you but doesn&#039;t include you may not be worth sitting still for.</description>
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		<title>By: Grayson Daughters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grayson Daughters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the AJC&#039;s print version is going through drastic, er, &quot;changes&quot; some of the AJC.com online &quot;meat&quot; is beginning to sizzle on the grill. Two reporter/bloggers standout as their blogs are immensely popular, dynamic, and interactive: Jim Galloway (politics) and Mark Bradley (sports/Braves baseball).

What&#039;s terribly interesting, to those of us who continually trod and watch these shifting media sands, is that both blogs are commanded by old-school newsmen... seasoned, serious beat reporters who were likely dragged kicking and screaming to the blogging/online arena. 

Once they &quot;got it&quot; though they obviously decided to own their social media-driven space. Both are avid Twitterites, for example; and they carefully, personally monitor the vibrant, real-time conversations taking place at any given moment on their blogs.

In other words, they are behaving just as Froomkin says a contemporary journalist should... they &#039;seek the truth, hold the powerful accountable, expose the B.S., explain how things really work, introduce people to each other, and tell compelling stories.&#039; 

If I was headed out to buy ad space on AJC.com, or recommending where a client should, I know exactly where I&#039;d insist on the ad placement - on the online real estate being carefully cultivated by adaptable and reliable journalists such as Bradley and Galloway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the AJC&#8217;s print version is going through drastic, er, &#8220;changes&#8221; some of the AJC.com online &#8220;meat&#8221; is beginning to sizzle on the grill. Two reporter/bloggers standout as their blogs are immensely popular, dynamic, and interactive: Jim Galloway (politics) and Mark Bradley (sports/Braves baseball).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s terribly interesting, to those of us who continually trod and watch these shifting media sands, is that both blogs are commanded by old-school newsmen&#8230; seasoned, serious beat reporters who were likely dragged kicking and screaming to the blogging/online arena. </p>
<p>Once they &#8220;got it&#8221; though they obviously decided to own their social media-driven space. Both are avid Twitterites, for example; and they carefully, personally monitor the vibrant, real-time conversations taking place at any given moment on their blogs.</p>
<p>In other words, they are behaving just as Froomkin says a contemporary journalist should&#8230; they &#8216;seek the truth, hold the powerful accountable, expose the B.S., explain how things really work, introduce people to each other, and tell compelling stories.&#8217; </p>
<p>If I was headed out to buy ad space on AJC.com, or recommending where a client should, I know exactly where I&#8217;d insist on the ad placement &#8211; on the online real estate being carefully cultivated by adaptable and reliable journalists such as Bradley and Galloway.</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m screwed. &#171; The New Boredom</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m screwed. &#171; The New Boredom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leave a comment &#187;  &#8220;No one wants to read a bored blogger&#8221; &#8211; Dan Froomkin  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 20:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s why I cancelled the two newspapers I subscribed to, I didn&#039;t believe they told me the truth and I was sick of subsidizing the lunacy of their editorial pages.

I read so much hand wringing about why the newspapers are going out of business and whose fault it is. What seems to never be addressed is what a shoddy product the papers put out. 

The Washington Post and the New York Times, two supposedly liberal papers, both lead the drumbeat to the war in Iraq. They both cheerled Bush into the White House and they both did everything they could to tear down the Clinton presidency. All of this was done not only through dishonest editorial perspectives but lazy and dishonest reporting.

You couldn&#039;t pay me to subscribe to any of the major papers in the country today. The newspapers are putting themselves out of business. They are neither reliable or relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s why I cancelled the two newspapers I subscribed to, I didn&#8217;t believe they told me the truth and I was sick of subsidizing the lunacy of their editorial pages.</p>
<p>I read so much hand wringing about why the newspapers are going out of business and whose fault it is. What seems to never be addressed is what a shoddy product the papers put out. </p>
<p>The Washington Post and the New York Times, two supposedly liberal papers, both lead the drumbeat to the war in Iraq. They both cheerled Bush into the White House and they both did everything they could to tear down the Clinton presidency. All of this was done not only through dishonest editorial perspectives but lazy and dishonest reporting.</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t pay me to subscribe to any of the major papers in the country today. The newspapers are putting themselves out of business. They are neither reliable or relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Knight Pulse: Online news recap for week of May 30 &#171; WordCount &#8211; Freelancing in the Digital Age</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knight Pulse: Online news recap for week of May 30 &#171; WordCount &#8211; Freelancing in the Digital Age</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Miama Herald Twitter poses risks for newspapers Neiman Journalism Labs Why playing it safe is killing American Newspapers &#8211; Part 1 of a four-part series by Newiman Watchdog deputy editor and Washington Post [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Publishers Milk Circulation Revenue :Newspaper Ad Rate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publishers Milk Circulation Revenue :Newspaper Ad Rate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Froomkin begins a four-part series at Nieman Journalism Lab on a prescription for the news industry.  He argues that the bland, expressionless voice that journalism organizations have adopted for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Vitello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Vitello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Referees, then. A better analogy.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Seibel</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-16636</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Seibel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ought not to be &quot;neutral observers&quot; of the game of news spinning, we should be its referees. Too often, though, we&#039;re not willing to call the fouls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ought not to be &#8220;neutral observers&#8221; of the game of news spinning, we should be its referees. Too often, though, we&#8217;re not willing to call the fouls.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vitello</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/dan-froomkin-why-playing-it-safe-is-killing-american-newspapers/comment-page-1/#comment-16612</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vitello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a mistake for newspapers to abandon their role as neutral observers of an increasingly physical game of partisan news-spinning. If you think the extreme political gridlock of gerrymandered Congressional and state-legislative systems are bad, wait until you see an all-&quot;voice&quot; all-the-time mainstream media. Echo chamber journalism is ultimately predictable and profoundly boring. Passion is fine, but let&#039;s be passionate about getting it right, and putting it straight. That&#039;s by far the harder, more valued work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a mistake for newspapers to abandon their role as neutral observers of an increasingly physical game of partisan news-spinning. If you think the extreme political gridlock of gerrymandered Congressional and state-legislative systems are bad, wait until you see an all-&#8221;voice&#8221; all-the-time mainstream media. Echo chamber journalism is ultimately predictable and profoundly boring. Passion is fine, but let&#8217;s be passionate about getting it right, and putting it straight. That&#8217;s by far the harder, more valued work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Froomkin: Shout truth from the rooftops; passion is part of our job &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Froomkin: Shout truth from the rooftops; passion is part of our job &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part two of Dan&#039;s essay on the ills facing American newspapers; part one ran yesterday. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: World Herald Tribune Chronicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Herald Tribune Chronicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A journalist&#039;s bias is toward reporting the truth, no matter how awkward and uncomfortable it might make some people. Any &quot;objectivity&quot; that requires uncritically reporting one side&#039;s claim that down is up, even when the other side is demonstrably correct in claiming up is up, is phony at its core. In the grander scheme such reporting is a detriment to democracy.

One of the greatest successes of the conservative moment of the past 30-odd years has been its ability to paint the mainstream press as &quot;liberal&quot; and to cast any reporting that did not include its point of view as &quot;unbalanced&quot; and not &quot;objective.&quot; Rather than defend the nature of reporting as exposing truth, many publishers and editors found it easier and safer to commit the journalistic malpractice of he-said/she-said reporting. 

While that attack was effective at the conscious level, subconsciously the attack on &quot;liberal media&quot; has had a more pernicious effect long term, affecting more than just perceived objectivity but credibility itself. Now doubt can be cast on the truthfulness of any reporting, not just reporting that leaves out a conservative point of view. Over time, the reputations of newspapers and other news media have been sullied to where we are today, with a poisoned atmosphere that assumes nefarious biases from every dark corner of every newsroom. (Not to say that newspapers haven&#039;t abetted in sullying themselves; see Judith Miller and Jayson Blair for starters.) 

Dan is right, the road back for newspapers lies in pursuit of the truth, making residents feel the paper is an advocate for them.
    
Maybe a more spare, less prosaic writing style is needed. It would lay bare the facts that form the truth of the reporting, while being more easily &quot;consumed&quot; from any kind of gizmo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A journalist&#8217;s bias is toward reporting the truth, no matter how awkward and uncomfortable it might make some people. Any &#8220;objectivity&#8221; that requires uncritically reporting one side&#8217;s claim that down is up, even when the other side is demonstrably correct in claiming up is up, is phony at its core. In the grander scheme such reporting is a detriment to democracy.</p>
<p>One of the greatest successes of the conservative moment of the past 30-odd years has been its ability to paint the mainstream press as &#8220;liberal&#8221; and to cast any reporting that did not include its point of view as &#8220;unbalanced&#8221; and not &#8220;objective.&#8221; Rather than defend the nature of reporting as exposing truth, many publishers and editors found it easier and safer to commit the journalistic malpractice of he-said/she-said reporting. </p>
<p>While that attack was effective at the conscious level, subconsciously the attack on &#8220;liberal media&#8221; has had a more pernicious effect long term, affecting more than just perceived objectivity but credibility itself. Now doubt can be cast on the truthfulness of any reporting, not just reporting that leaves out a conservative point of view. Over time, the reputations of newspapers and other news media have been sullied to where we are today, with a poisoned atmosphere that assumes nefarious biases from every dark corner of every newsroom. (Not to say that newspapers haven&#8217;t abetted in sullying themselves; see Judith Miller and Jayson Blair for starters.) </p>
<p>Dan is right, the road back for newspapers lies in pursuit of the truth, making residents feel the paper is an advocate for them.</p>
<p>Maybe a more spare, less prosaic writing style is needed. It would lay bare the facts that form the truth of the reporting, while being more easily &#8220;consumed&#8221; from any kind of gizmo.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Steichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Steichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

You seem to be saying that if reporters add more personal opinion to their writing (which is what I think you &quot;voice&quot;) and do so more overtly, that the articles will have a greater appeal to a broader audience.  You also seem to suggest that, if individual articles can be made more appealing, that this will significantly help to resolve newspaper problems.

If that is indeed what you meant, I strongly disagree on both points.

While attempting to conceal a bias under a false appearance of neutrality does hurt the articles&#039; quality, making a reporter&#039;s bias explicit would seem to me to make things even worse.  Obviously biased news articles (whether overt or not) appeal mainly to a (usually smallish) segment comprised of &quot;like-minded&quot; people,  (As an aside, I firmly believe that a skilled and ethical reporter be capable of setting aside their personal biases to write a truly neutral article.)

I would go further and argue that even significantly improving the quality of a site&#039;s news articles (better writing, editing, more depth and breadth, more credible authors), would likely expand costs much more significantly than it would increase traffic.

What I think is being lost in much of the discussion on newspapers, is the simple fact that a &quot;news&quot; consumer, per se, is seeking &quot;news,&quot; not discrete news articles.  A &quot;news&quot; customer is seeking collective information about important events occurring in an area of interest to him/her.  Sure, they want to be able to &quot;drill down&quot; and read specific news articles for details, but that doesn&#039;t make the news articles any more equivalent to the &quot;news&quot; than a bunch of bricks are equivalent to the house they belong to.

Online &quot;news&quot; consumers get their &quot;news&quot; in various ways, besides entering a newspaper site&#039;s &quot;front door.&quot;  They can get &quot;news&quot; via news aggregators (ala, Google News), blogs (which have their own ideas on what&#039;s important), and rss feed readers (where many of the feeds come from the newspaper sites themselves).  When these &quot;news&quot; consumers click on an article link, all they (usually) want are the details in the linked article.

Online search consumers are generally not looking for &quot;news&quot; per se, but for specific information.  When these &quot;search&quot; consumers click on an article link, they also want the details offered in the article (rather than some broader &quot;news&quot; context).

IMHO, a core problem for the newspaper sites is that, by the time a &quot;back door&quot; visitor has arrived at their site, the &quot;news&quot; context originally created by the newspaper, has been stripped away (along with all the ad impressions and reference to other articles in the &quot;news&quot;).  At this point, loading up the individual articles with &quot;news-related&quot; links would probably be a waste (and more clutter).  Such links would probably have little appeal to such visitors (given what they&#039;ve already seen and why they clicked in the first place).  

But hooking into the interest of the &quot;back door&quot; visitor is absolutely crucial if the newspaper is to continue to function as a purveyor of &quot;news.&quot;</description>
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<p>You seem to be saying that if reporters add more personal opinion to their writing (which is what I think you &#8220;voice&#8221;) and do so more overtly, that the articles will have a greater appeal to a broader audience.  You also seem to suggest that, if individual articles can be made more appealing, that this will significantly help to resolve newspaper problems.</p>
<p>If that is indeed what you meant, I strongly disagree on both points.</p>
<p>While attempting to conceal a bias under a false appearance of neutrality does hurt the articles&#8217; quality, making a reporter&#8217;s bias explicit would seem to me to make things even worse.  Obviously biased news articles (whether overt or not) appeal mainly to a (usually smallish) segment comprised of &#8220;like-minded&#8221; people,  (As an aside, I firmly believe that a skilled and ethical reporter be capable of setting aside their personal biases to write a truly neutral article.)</p>
<p>I would go further and argue that even significantly improving the quality of a site&#8217;s news articles (better writing, editing, more depth and breadth, more credible authors), would likely expand costs much more significantly than it would increase traffic.</p>
<p>What I think is being lost in much of the discussion on newspapers, is the simple fact that a &#8220;news&#8221; consumer, per se, is seeking &#8220;news,&#8221; not discrete news articles.  A &#8220;news&#8221; customer is seeking collective information about important events occurring in an area of interest to him/her.  Sure, they want to be able to &#8220;drill down&#8221; and read specific news articles for details, but that doesn&#8217;t make the news articles any more equivalent to the &#8220;news&#8221; than a bunch of bricks are equivalent to the house they belong to.</p>
<p>Online &#8220;news&#8221; consumers get their &#8220;news&#8221; in various ways, besides entering a newspaper site&#8217;s &#8220;front door.&#8221;  They can get &#8220;news&#8221; via news aggregators (ala, Google News), blogs (which have their own ideas on what&#8217;s important), and rss feed readers (where many of the feeds come from the newspaper sites themselves).  When these &#8220;news&#8221; consumers click on an article link, all they (usually) want are the details in the linked article.</p>
<p>Online search consumers are generally not looking for &#8220;news&#8221; per se, but for specific information.  When these &#8220;search&#8221; consumers click on an article link, they also want the details offered in the article (rather than some broader &#8220;news&#8221; context).</p>
<p>IMHO, a core problem for the newspaper sites is that, by the time a &#8220;back door&#8221; visitor has arrived at their site, the &#8220;news&#8221; context originally created by the newspaper, has been stripped away (along with all the ad impressions and reference to other articles in the &#8220;news&#8221;).  At this point, loading up the individual articles with &#8220;news-related&#8221; links would probably be a waste (and more clutter).  Such links would probably have little appeal to such visitors (given what they&#8217;ve already seen and why they clicked in the first place).  </p>
<p>But hooking into the interest of the &#8220;back door&#8221; visitor is absolutely crucial if the newspaper is to continue to function as a purveyor of &#8220;news.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d hardly call Sam Zell&#039;s totally irrational cash-flow projections when he bought Tribune Co. playing it safe-- and that, more than anything else, is what forced Tribune into bankruptcy, ruined the reputation of stellar newspapers, and wrecked the lives and livelihoods of innumerable good reporters and other media professionals. 

I see your broader point, of course. But let&#039;s remember that the biggest threat to newspapers is still idiocy in the CFO&#039;s office, not timidity in the newsroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d hardly call Sam Zell&#8217;s totally irrational cash-flow projections when he bought Tribune Co. playing it safe&#8211; and that, more than anything else, is what forced Tribune into bankruptcy, ruined the reputation of stellar newspapers, and wrecked the lives and livelihoods of innumerable good reporters and other media professionals. </p>
<p>I see your broader point, of course. But let&#8217;s remember that the biggest threat to newspapers is still idiocy in the CFO&#8217;s office, not timidity in the newsroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with much of what you say, this is not a diagnosis of newspapers&#039; problems. The fact is, no matter how boring they might be, they get more eyeballs than ever. Their product is in great demand. It&#039;s just that nobody has figured out the post-classified online business model. That&#039;s the real problem, not boring, incremental stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with much of what you say, this is not a diagnosis of newspapers&#8217; problems. The fact is, no matter how boring they might be, they get more eyeballs than ever. Their product is in great demand. It&#8217;s just that nobody has figured out the post-classified online business model. That&#8217;s the real problem, not boring, incremental stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, please excuse the typo, but I meant to write, &quot;The reason the web abhors *the absence of* voice is that voice provides very useful context....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem, please excuse the typo, but I meant to write, &#8220;The reason the web abhors *the absence of* voice is that voice provides very useful context&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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