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		<title>By: driving test practical</title>
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		<dc:creator>driving test practical</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Why should regional media embrace online? &#171; News Frontier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why should regional media embrace online? &#171; News Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the digital media landscape or protect current revenue makers- traditional media. In fact many have debated that attempts to erect pay walls (comments directed squarely at Murdoch) are an attempt not to save [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hard News Cafe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online news scooping print media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard News Cafe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online news scooping print media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Niemann Foundation for Journalism, says the correct answer will likely be something he likens to a  &#8220;pay fence,&#8221;  where most news is available for free at a newspaper&#8217;s Web site, but a certain quantity of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Niemann Foundation for Journalism, says the correct answer will likely be something he likens to a  &#8220;pay fence,&#8221;  where most news is available for free at a newspaper&#8217;s Web site, but a certain quantity of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeevan &#124; GFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeevan &#124; GFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they make 80-90% of their revenue from printed editions then why bother charging for online content? I don&#039;t see a future in this for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they make 80-90% of their revenue from printed editions then why bother charging for online content? I don&#8217;t see a future in this for them.</p>
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		<title>By: News like porn &#8211; the ongoing &#8216;charging for online news&#8217; debate &#171; News Frontier</title>
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		<dc:creator>News like porn &#8211; the ongoing &#8216;charging for online news&#8217; debate &#171; News Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or other methods for online news, but Zachary Seward at the Nieman Journalism Lab has a few points that he says are often overlooked in this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the eloquent comment. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for the eloquent comment. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Donley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Donley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 2. Pay walls aren’t necessarily intended to generate revenue.

It&#039;s not counterintuitive, but it is wrong-headed . . . part of the group-think that is endangering journalism by tying it to the factory that is a modern newspaper.  

Anyone digging into the history of the collapse of newspapers knows that the decline began two generations ago, in the mid-50s.  The acceleration of that decline far preceded the Web.  The industry was worried enough to spend decades grasping at the next program or technology to win back or win over Boomers and their descendants who flocked away from newspapers.  Many pioneering newpaper web sites did have pay walls, and used online content as a hook for subscription sales.  Putting editorial content on the web did not take newspapers down . . . . decades of rapacious business practices in business classifieds and advertising, in an attempt to continue one of the highest profit margins of any industry, did that quite well.

And the web provided an enticing, and much better, solution for aggrieved advertisers, especially in the real estate, employment and automotive categories.  Real estate organizations and auto dealers, especially, found they didn&#039;t need newspapers.  That was the gun to the head of newspapers . . . not free content.

If it were true that a local newspaper, by putting free content on the web, harmed its circulation, then there would be only one logical answer: Shut down the web site.  If the point is to save the newspaper print factory, with its huge expenses in raw materials, production, delivery and other costs that are NOT this vaunted valuable editorial content, then the only answer is to focus all resources on the print factory.  The web site is a drain.

If you believe in horse-drawn carriages as your business model, why give even a nod to providing your customers with toy automobiles.  Tell &#039;em it&#039;s the carriage, darn it, and they&#039;d better keep buying them, or they&#039;re going to lose the ability to travel from one spot to another.

I&#039;m sure, faced with such an ultimatum, readers will flock to subscribe to the paper, whose content they value so much.

Or, newspapers could face up to some soul-searching about what they REALLY produce of value, shut down the print factory and get on with the business they profess to be in . . . the origination and distribution of quality journalism.  No one is going to come up with a business model to save journalism until they model the right business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 2. Pay walls aren’t necessarily intended to generate revenue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not counterintuitive, but it is wrong-headed . . . part of the group-think that is endangering journalism by tying it to the factory that is a modern newspaper.  </p>
<p>Anyone digging into the history of the collapse of newspapers knows that the decline began two generations ago, in the mid-50s.  The acceleration of that decline far preceded the Web.  The industry was worried enough to spend decades grasping at the next program or technology to win back or win over Boomers and their descendants who flocked away from newspapers.  Many pioneering newpaper web sites did have pay walls, and used online content as a hook for subscription sales.  Putting editorial content on the web did not take newspapers down . . . . decades of rapacious business practices in business classifieds and advertising, in an attempt to continue one of the highest profit margins of any industry, did that quite well.</p>
<p>And the web provided an enticing, and much better, solution for aggrieved advertisers, especially in the real estate, employment and automotive categories.  Real estate organizations and auto dealers, especially, found they didn&#8217;t need newspapers.  That was the gun to the head of newspapers . . . not free content.</p>
<p>If it were true that a local newspaper, by putting free content on the web, harmed its circulation, then there would be only one logical answer: Shut down the web site.  If the point is to save the newspaper print factory, with its huge expenses in raw materials, production, delivery and other costs that are NOT this vaunted valuable editorial content, then the only answer is to focus all resources on the print factory.  The web site is a drain.</p>
<p>If you believe in horse-drawn carriages as your business model, why give even a nod to providing your customers with toy automobiles.  Tell &#8216;em it&#8217;s the carriage, darn it, and they&#8217;d better keep buying them, or they&#8217;re going to lose the ability to travel from one spot to another.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure, faced with such an ultimatum, readers will flock to subscribe to the paper, whose content they value so much.</p>
<p>Or, newspapers could face up to some soul-searching about what they REALLY produce of value, shut down the print factory and get on with the business they profess to be in . . . the origination and distribution of quality journalism.  No one is going to come up with a business model to save journalism until they model the right business.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for today &#124; Links para hoje &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for today &#124; Links para hoje &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four observations about charging for news that are often overlooked, Nieman Journalism Lab [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the free society

Web people forget...They have no money...No revenue to pay for the free content they get from the print side. 

What future business model will work if the pblic doesn&#039;t pay for the news.

What new business model will support enough staff to have the quality of news the web now gets for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the free society</p>
<p>Web people forget&#8230;They have no money&#8230;No revenue to pay for the free content they get from the print side. </p>
<p>What future business model will work if the pblic doesn&#8217;t pay for the news.</p>
<p>What new business model will support enough staff to have the quality of news the web now gets for free.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is the pay wall really going to do anything for the newspaper companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the pay wall really going to do anything for the newspaper companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting stuff I saw online, May. 30 to May. 31 &#124; STL Social Media Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interesting stuff I saw online, May. 30 to May. 31 &#124; STL Social Media Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four observations about charging for news that are often overlooked - &quot;Plenty has been written about the futility of erecting pay walls &#8212; much of which I agree with &#8212; but a few points are often overlooked.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Four observations about charging for news that are often overlooked &#8211; &quot;Plenty has been written about the futility of erecting pay walls &mdash; much of which I agree with &mdash; but a few points are often overlooked.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a particular study I was thinking of when I wrote that, and I&#039;ll get it for you when I&#039;m in the office on Monday. Until then, the Newspaper Association of America &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reports&lt;/a&gt; that in 2008, online advertising accounted for just 8.2% of total ad revenue. There&#039;s also circulation revenue, of course, but that skews even more heavily toward print.

Either way, I was just referring to U.S. newspapers, though the situation is similar in most other countries. (European newspapers get more of their revenue from circulation. Don&#039;t know much specifically about the breakdown for Australian newspapers.) Thanks for keeping me honest, Stephen. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a particular study I was thinking of when I wrote that, and I&#8217;ll get it for you when I&#8217;m in the office on Monday. Until then, the Newspaper Association of America <a href="http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx" rel="nofollow">reports</a> that in 2008, online advertising accounted for just 8.2% of total ad revenue. There&#8217;s also circulation revenue, of course, but that skews even more heavily toward print.</p>
<p>Either way, I was just referring to U.S. newspapers, though the situation is similar in most other countries. (European newspapers get more of their revenue from circulation. Don&#8217;t know much specifically about the breakdown for Australian newspapers.) Thanks for keeping me honest, Stephen. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: stephen quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful article, Zachary. In point 2 you say &quot;... the print edition ... still provides 80-90 percent of income at most newspaper companies&quot;. May I have a source for that, please?

And are you referring to all newspaper companies worldwide, or newspaper companies in specific countries or regions such as the US/North America? And are you referring only to daily newspapers?
Cheers,
Stephen Quinn in Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful article, Zachary. In point 2 you say &#8220;&#8230; the print edition &#8230; still provides 80-90 percent of income at most newspaper companies&#8221;. May I have a source for that, please?</p>
<p>And are you referring to all newspaper companies worldwide, or newspaper companies in specific countries or regions such as the US/North America? And are you referring only to daily newspapers?<br />
Cheers,<br />
Stephen Quinn in Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/four-observations-about-charging-for-news-that-are-often-overlooked/comment-page-1/#comment-17174</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Jenna, it&#039;s so much easier to say what &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; the future of news!

It&#039;s a fair question, and I&#039;d like to think you&#039;re at the right domain for venturing an answer, but I wouldn&#039;t presume to try it in a single blog post, let alone a blog comment. One piece I&#039;m thinking about this weekend is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-opening-up-closed-doors-what-news-execs-asked-brill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paidContent&#039;s report&lt;/a&gt; on Steve Brill, et al.&#039;s plan to charge for portions of newspaper sites. Their figures look overly optimist, at first blush, but I want to get more details. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Jenna, it&#8217;s so much easier to say what <i>isn&#8217;t</i> the future of news!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fair question, and I&#8217;d like to think you&#8217;re at the right domain for venturing an answer, but I wouldn&#8217;t presume to try it in a single blog post, let alone a blog comment. One piece I&#8217;m thinking about this weekend is <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-opening-up-closed-doors-what-news-execs-asked-brill/" rel="nofollow">paidContent&#8217;s report</a> on Steve Brill, et al.&#8217;s plan to charge for portions of newspaper sites. Their figures look overly optimist, at first blush, but I want to get more details. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Pagar por notícias : Ponto Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pagar por notícias : Ponto Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SOBRE A questão dos pagamentos nos sites noticiosos, que agora voltou à ordem do dia, é preciso ler Four observations about charging for news that are often overlooked. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JennaMcWilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>JennaMcWilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey: 4. Even if pay walls are the future of newspapers, they aren’t the future of news.

Okay, what IS the future of news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey: 4. Even if pay walls are the future of newspapers, they aren’t the future of news.</p>
<p>Okay, what IS the future of news?</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew and Joey, if you haven&#039;t seen it, I&#039;d recommend Clay Shirky on &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/02/why-small-payments-wont-save-publishers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Small Payments Won&#039;t Save Publishers&lt;/a&gt;.&quot; He may not be right, but it&#039;s a good place to start the micropayments discussion. In general, I&#039;m skeptical of these plans without seeing them in action and don&#039;t think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/why-itunes-is-not-a-workable-model-for-the-news-business/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt; (which sells goods you can keep and enjoy forever) or EZ-Pass (which is a government tax) are analogous to newspaper consumption. But I&#039;d love to be wrong and am eager to learn about any pay-for-news plans that might work.

Karsten, it does seem like the Times has a chance to charge for content on devices other than the traditional web browser. Times Reader is currently free for print subscribers (and no one else) but could probably be sold as a standalone product. Similar situation with the Kindle, other e-readers, and devices not yet invented. One advantage in those cases, as my boss Josh has argued, is that the owners of, say, a Kindle have already shown themselves willing to shell out a lot of money to access information and are probably less reluctant to pay for news as well. It may be a small market, though. 

Happy to keep discussing this over the weekend. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew and Joey, if you haven&#8217;t seen it, I&#8217;d recommend Clay Shirky on &#8220;<a href="http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/02/why-small-payments-wont-save-publishers/" rel="nofollow">Why Small Payments Won&#8217;t Save Publishers</a>.&#8221; He may not be right, but it&#8217;s a good place to start the micropayments discussion. In general, I&#8217;m skeptical of these plans without seeing them in action and don&#8217;t think <a href="http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/why-itunes-is-not-a-workable-model-for-the-news-business/" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a> (which sells goods you can keep and enjoy forever) or EZ-Pass (which is a government tax) are analogous to newspaper consumption. But I&#8217;d love to be wrong and am eager to learn about any pay-for-news plans that might work.</p>
<p>Karsten, it does seem like the Times has a chance to charge for content on devices other than the traditional web browser. Times Reader is currently free for print subscribers (and no one else) but could probably be sold as a standalone product. Similar situation with the Kindle, other e-readers, and devices not yet invented. One advantage in those cases, as my boss Josh has argued, is that the owners of, say, a Kindle have already shown themselves willing to shell out a lot of money to access information and are probably less reluctant to pay for news as well. It may be a small market, though. </p>
<p>Happy to keep discussing this over the weekend. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, if newspapers want to get serious about charging for content, they need to collaborate with Dell, Apple, MasterCard and Visa to include some tap-and-pay technology so people can easily ding their credit cards against the laptop and get nicked $0.50 per article. 

It&#039;s easy enough to nickel-and-dime people; we do it with the EZ-Pass on the turnpike all the time. It&#039;s only hard when you *make them aware* of it. Pulling your wallet out and keying in numbers does that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, if newspapers want to get serious about charging for content, they need to collaborate with Dell, Apple, MasterCard and Visa to include some tap-and-pay technology so people can easily ding their credit cards against the laptop and get nicked $0.50 per article. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy enough to nickel-and-dime people; we do it with the EZ-Pass on the turnpike all the time. It&#8217;s only hard when you *make them aware* of it. Pulling your wallet out and keying in numbers does that.</p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since news has become so abundant that it&#039;s now almost worthless in and of itself, the way I see it, charging for websites -- pure Internet offers -- will only drive people elsewhere.

Give them something like the New York Times Reader, though, but with more added value (time savings, convenience, etc.), and media companies might be able to charge money again. Also, the move away from PCs to mobile, e-readers and, later, the digital living room will help, of course, as it opens up a slew of new revenue opportunities -- all better than charging for something on the Web that&#039;s currently free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since news has become so abundant that it&#8217;s now almost worthless in and of itself, the way I see it, charging for websites &#8212; pure Internet offers &#8212; will only drive people elsewhere.</p>
<p>Give them something like the New York Times Reader, though, but with more added value (time savings, convenience, etc.), and media companies might be able to charge money again. Also, the move away from PCs to mobile, e-readers and, later, the digital living room will help, of course, as it opens up a slew of new revenue opportunities &#8212; all better than charging for something on the Web that&#8217;s currently free.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/four-observations-about-charging-for-news-that-are-often-overlooked/comment-page-1/#comment-16961</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://thatshallowfellow.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/micropayments-can-work-but-not-with-site-by-site-registrations/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pay-to-surf can work&lt;/a&gt;, it simply requires

1) a unified system built right into the browser that ALL sites use (and that gives a user a common resource for how much they&#039;ve spent/will spend), instead of unique registrations per site
2) a realistic cost per article (and we&#039;re talking something even less than a penny) rather than the concept of a subscription per site.  10c per article, as some have proposed, is insanely high scaled up all over the internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thatshallowfellow.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/micropayments-can-work-but-not-with-site-by-site-registrations/" rel="nofollow">Pay-to-surf can work</a>, it simply requires</p>
<p>1) a unified system built right into the browser that ALL sites use (and that gives a user a common resource for how much they&#8217;ve spent/will spend), instead of unique registrations per site<br />
2) a realistic cost per article (and we&#8217;re talking something even less than a penny) rather than the concept of a subscription per site.  10c per article, as some have proposed, is insanely high scaled up all over the internet</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pay fence, yes! Much better than my attempts. Thanks, Pashcal.

And this important comment came in &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/onemoreryan/statuses/1960934925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;via Twitter&lt;/a&gt; from Ryan Pitt of The Spokesman-Review: &quot;Another thing often overlooked: Pay walls aren&#039;t free. They cost $$ (&amp; time!) to build, maintain, provide customer service for.&quot; Very true, and thanks. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay fence, yes! Much better than my attempts. Thanks, Pashcal.</p>
<p>And this important comment came in <a href="http://twitter.com/onemoreryan/statuses/1960934925" rel="nofollow">via Twitter</a> from Ryan Pitt of The Spokesman-Review: &#8220;Another thing often overlooked: Pay walls aren&#8217;t free. They cost $$ (&#038; time!) to build, maintain, provide customer service for.&#8221; Very true, and thanks. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Paschal Fowlkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paschal Fowlkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t necessarily disagree with this but most of it, as you say, has more to do with short-term care of dying institutions. 

If newspaper brands can survive to be bought, or to eke out another few years of print viability, it&#039;s only going to prolong the inevitable. On the other hand, if they can identify those aspects of their relationship with readers where they provide relatively unique value, they just might be able to rethink the distribution model to one that makes sense to all sides. Not an easy task to be sure, but the more they think of themselves as newspapers rather than content providers the sooner they will find themselves facing true obsolescence.

Murray&#039;s absolutely right about the pay wall. In our work with consumerreports.org we thought of it more as a &quot;pay fence,&quot; carefully positioned to allow for a useful free experience while clearly communicating the value of the content beyond the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily disagree with this but most of it, as you say, has more to do with short-term care of dying institutions. </p>
<p>If newspaper brands can survive to be bought, or to eke out another few years of print viability, it&#8217;s only going to prolong the inevitable. On the other hand, if they can identify those aspects of their relationship with readers where they provide relatively unique value, they just might be able to rethink the distribution model to one that makes sense to all sides. Not an easy task to be sure, but the more they think of themselves as newspapers rather than content providers the sooner they will find themselves facing true obsolescence.</p>
<p>Murray&#8217;s absolutely right about the pay wall. In our work with consumerreports.org we thought of it more as a &#8220;pay fence,&#8221; carefully positioned to allow for a useful free experience while clearly communicating the value of the content beyond the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, sorry, it is not an expression, just a reference to bankers who, at least stereotypically, wear French-cuffed blue shirts with white collars.

And thanks, Jenna! —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, sorry, it is not an expression, just a reference to bankers who, at least stereotypically, wear French-cuffed blue shirts with white collars.</p>
<p>And thanks, Jenna! —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: JennaMcWilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>JennaMcWilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Awesomeness. This is my favorite item of the day. I&#039;m especially fond of item #4: Even if pay walls are the future of newspapers, they aren’t the future of news. 

We know enough by now to know, almost intuitively, that this is spot-on. Play newspapers on, Zachary M. Seward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Awesomeness. This is my favorite item of the day. I&#8217;m especially fond of item #4: Even if pay walls are the future of newspapers, they aren’t the future of news. </p>
<p>We know enough by now to know, almost intuitively, that this is spot-on. Play newspapers on, Zachary M. Seward.</p>
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		<title>By: missingthepoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>missingthepoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be dense, but what does the phrase &quot;put on my french cuffs&quot; mean?  I&#039;m a native English speaker, but I&#039;m totally unfamiliar with this expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be dense, but what does the phrase &#8220;put on my french cuffs&#8221; mean?  I&#8217;m a native English speaker, but I&#8217;m totally unfamiliar with this expression.</p>
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