Comments on: Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tabades tabamatut « Protsess http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-45979 Tabades tabamatut « Protsess Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:44:49 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-45979 [...] huvitava loo frame grabbingust, kus nii olemuslikku juttu, kui ka praktilisi [...] [...] huvitava loo frame grabbingust, kus nii olemuslikku juttu, kui ka praktilisi [...]

]]> By: The 'Decisive Moment' May Be Passing | Society Matters http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-42436 The 'Decisive Moment' May Be Passing | Society Matters Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:37:15 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-42436 [...] Journalism Lab has a nice summary here. One revealing excerpt: [Photographer David Leeson has] been surprised by the resistance among many [...] [...] Journalism Lab has a nice summary here. One revealing excerpt: [Photographer David Leeson has] been surprised by the resistance among many [...]

]]> By: Joshua http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-22116 Joshua Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:04:31 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-22116 I'm a daily still PJ. Thats a lot of effort going into producing an image to have as a companion to video. But is there really a paying newspaper audience for online video? Thats the biggest question for me, we have the technology, but do we have an audience who will watch the content? I’m a daily still PJ. Thats a lot of effort going into producing an image to have as a companion to video. But is there really a paying newspaper audience for online video? Thats the biggest question for me, we have the technology, but do we have an audience who will watch the content?

]]> By: HD VIDEO MAGAZINE COVER « ROCMAJOR http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-19630 HD VIDEO MAGAZINE COVER « ROCMAJOR Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:49:46 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-19630 [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video [...] [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video [...]

]]> By: ega http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-18130 ega Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:39:04 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-18130 i'm photographer and i hope it doesn't be common in photography... i’m photographer and i hope it doesn’t be common in photography…

]]> By: EP http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15926 EP Wed, 20 May 2009 08:47:27 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15926 Yeah, I know, but so is Gutenberg... ;) Yeah, I know, but so is Gutenberg… ;)

]]> By: Brittany http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15864 Brittany Tue, 19 May 2009 19:47:04 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15864 Bresson is rolling in his grave. Bresson is rolling in his grave.

]]> By: Stilgherrian · Links for 09 May 2009 through 17 May 2009 http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15468 Stilgherrian · Links for 09 May 2009 through 17 May 2009 Sun, 17 May 2009 00:17:43 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15468 [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video | Nieman Journalism Lab: As the boundary between video and still camera blurs, photojournalists and other people we’d normally consider “photographers” are using video stills in mainstream media. [...] [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video | Nieman Journalism Lab: As the boundary between video and still camera blurs, photojournalists and other people we’d normally consider “photographers” are using video stills in mainstream media. [...]

]]> By: EP http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15363 EP Fri, 15 May 2009 22:42:02 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15363 Yeah, as a lover of still photography I also hope this does not become the norm. What would Annie Leibovitz or Herb Ritz say? Yeah, as a lover of still photography I also hope this does not become the norm. What would Annie Leibovitz or Herb Ritz say?

]]> By: Brittany http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15352 Brittany Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:08 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15352 As a photojournalist I pray this doesn't become common place. The "decisive moment" is what pj is about. Burning through film is amateurish at best. You need to have the vision to know when to take the shot. However, for the Esquire cover, I have no problems. For commercial sake there is absolutely nothing wrong with frame grabbing. There's no decisive moment to grab. I just prefer the still camera. As a photojournalist I pray this doesn’t become common place. The “decisive moment” is what pj is about. Burning through film is amateurish at best. You need to have the vision to know when to take the shot.
However, for the Esquire cover, I have no problems. For commercial sake there is absolutely nothing wrong with frame grabbing. There’s no decisive moment to grab.
I just prefer the still camera.

]]> By: Mike Chelen http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15345 Mike Chelen Fri, 15 May 2009 18:48:27 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15345 Colburn's concerns about limited video resolution <2 megapixels are interesting in context of modern digital video cameras with both high optical quality and sensor resolution. Colburn’s concerns about limited video resolution <2 megapixels are interesting in context of modern digital video cameras with both high optical quality and sensor resolution.

]]> By: david dg http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15189 david dg Thu, 14 May 2009 01:43:46 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15189 I worked with a Nato-assigned photojo. In his own words he hated video cameras. He couldn't see the "moment" when using video. As a videojournalist we exchanged notes. Videojournalism for me, I told him, was a dynamic flux between the instant, situating oneself to anticipate the inter frame, the "visual moment" and prompting the appropriate narrative, where applicable. e.g. <a href="http://www.viewmagazine.tv/tomorrowsvideojournalism2.html" rel="nofollow">antiaesthetic VJ shoot</a> I do a lot of work now with some amazing photojos, e.g. Yannis Kontos, who get the video moment as well which can yield interesting results c.f. <a href="http://www.viewmagazine.tv/pixelswithoutborders.html" rel="nofollow">pixels without borders</a> I worked with a Nato-assigned photojo. In his own words he hated video cameras. He couldn’t see the “moment” when using video. As a videojournalist we exchanged notes. Videojournalism for me, I told him, was a dynamic flux between the instant, situating oneself to anticipate the inter frame, the “visual moment” and prompting the appropriate narrative, where applicable. e.g. antiaesthetic VJ shoot
I do a lot of work now with some amazing photojos, e.g. Yannis Kontos, who get the video moment as well which can yield interesting results c.f. pixels without borders

]]> By: Kommenterat på digitalpr.se - 13 May 2009 — Niclas Strandh digitalPR, creative planning och sociala mediestrategier http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15098 Kommenterat på digitalpr.se - 13 May 2009 — Niclas Strandh digitalPR, creative planning och sociala mediestrategier Wed, 13 May 2009 08:01:18 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15098 [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video » Nieman Journalism Lab [...] [...] Frame grabbing: The art of drawing great photography from video » Nieman Journalism Lab [...]

]]> By: EP http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15022 EP Tue, 12 May 2009 15:06:20 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15022 Yes, I agree. I think the editorial constraints are changing, will change, but that does not mean that the constraints (of different sorts) will disappear. I wonder about the impact that this will have on the culture of the still image. Yes, I agree. I think the editorial constraints are changing, will change, but that does not mean that the constraints (of different sorts) will disappear.

I wonder about the impact that this will have on the culture of the still image.

]]> By: Alan M. http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15018 Alan M. Tue, 12 May 2009 14:17:48 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15018 I agree that frame grabbing pushes the "decisive moment" to the editing process. But I wonder what sorts of publishing widgets will push that editing to the viewer: a virtual cover of Esquire, say, with 30 frames from the Megan Fox shoot that you can flip through rapidly. ... The "decisive moment" exists only if there's reason to make a decision, such as: we can only publish one photo on our magazine cover. And that editorial constraint no longer exists. I agree that frame grabbing pushes the “decisive moment” to the editing process. But I wonder what sorts of publishing widgets will push that editing to the viewer: a virtual cover of Esquire, say, with 30 frames from the Megan Fox shoot that you can flip through rapidly. … The “decisive moment” exists only if there’s reason to make a decision, such as: we can only publish one photo on our magazine cover. And that editorial constraint no longer exists.

]]> By: EP http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15006 EP Tue, 12 May 2009 11:16:54 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-15006 Probably the "decisive moment" has been shifted a posteriori, to the editing process. Cartier-Bresson's term referred to an editing procedure after all- it's all about timing, framing, selecting, leaving in, leaving out. Contact sheets could be seen as stills from a video, so in this sense it feels like a natural thing to do, if technology allows enough quality to freeze a motion frame with still photography definition... Probably the “decisive moment” has been shifted a posteriori, to the editing process. Cartier-Bresson’s term referred to an editing procedure after all- it’s all about timing, framing, selecting, leaving in, leaving out. Contact sheets could be seen as stills from a video, so in this sense it feels like a natural thing to do, if technology allows enough quality to freeze a motion frame with still photography definition…

]]> By: Alan M. http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-14973 Alan M. Tue, 12 May 2009 04:21:03 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-14973 I once worked with a professional photographer who had no interest in the "decisive moment" -- but she did have a motor drive. On assignments she burned through miles of film, but in the end she usually had a few frames good enought to publish. Back then I thought she just didn't get it; now I realize she was simply ahead of her time. I once worked with a professional photographer who had no interest in the “decisive moment” — but she did have a motor drive. On assignments she burned through miles of film, but in the end she usually had a few frames good enought to publish. Back then I thought she just didn’t get it; now I realize she was simply ahead of her time.

]]> By: EP http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/frame-grabbing-the-art-of-drawing-great-photography-from-video/comment-page-1/#comment-14574 EP Fri, 08 May 2009 21:13:09 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=4611#comment-14574 Really interesting post. The implications for photography in general and photojournalism in general are tremendous. Really interesting post. The implications for photography in general and photojournalism in general are tremendous.

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