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	<title>Comments on: QR code: tool for journalists?</title>
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		<title>By: Tech thoughts on storytelling: Amy Webb at ONA 2010 &#8211; Nieman Storyboard - A project of the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-193849</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech thoughts on storytelling: Amy Webb at ONA 2010 &#8211; Nieman Storyboard - A project of the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barcode/QR code technology isn’t exactly new (see this Nieman Lab post about it from May of last year), but I suspect there are still some new ways to apply it to storytelling. Webb mentioned showing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Barcode/QR code technology isn’t exactly new (see this Nieman Lab post about it from May of last year), but I suspect there are still some new ways to apply it to storytelling. Webb mentioned showing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-61985</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the point is to link people immediately to a webpage, is it really that difficult to write software that can go from a picture of a written url to open the page (perhaps denoted between two symbols, eg. #www.google.com# ).  Seems like it would reach more people if people without the necessary phone software could still type in the url.  Or is it actually more about showing off how your phone can do this cool new thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the point is to link people immediately to a webpage, is it really that difficult to write software that can go from a picture of a written url to open the page (perhaps denoted between two symbols, eg. #www.google.com# ).  Seems like it would reach more people if people without the necessary phone software could still type in the url.  Or is it actually more about showing off how your phone can do this cool new thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-21533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run QRMe.co.uk, a QR code reference website and
it looks like UK, Europe and the US seem to be the early adopters of the technology. Top visitors are :-

17.5%	UNITED KINGDOM
13.8%	UNITED STATES
8.4%	GERMANY
6.8%	BRAZIL
6.2%	AUSTRALIA
4.2%	SPAIN
3.6%	POLAND
3.2%	NETHERLANDS
2.6%	ITALY
2.3%	FRANCE
2.2%	CZECH REPUBLIC
2%	HUNGARY

Regards
Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run QRMe.co.uk, a QR code reference website and<br />
it looks like UK, Europe and the US seem to be the early adopters of the technology. Top visitors are :-</p>
<p>17.5%	UNITED KINGDOM<br />
13.8%	UNITED STATES<br />
8.4%	GERMANY<br />
6.8%	BRAZIL<br />
6.2%	AUSTRALIA<br />
4.2%	SPAIN<br />
3.6%	POLAND<br />
3.2%	NETHERLANDS<br />
2.6%	ITALY<br />
2.3%	FRANCE<br />
2.2%	CZECH REPUBLIC<br />
2%	HUNGARY</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-18617</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are harvesting the data and using it to prove that print advertising works, then it&#039;s smart.

If they are harvesting the data and sending it along to the journalists to help them see which stories have traction, then it&#039;s smart.

If they don&#039;t harvest the data, then it&#039;s just as you say.

Re QR codes v tinyurls. Today there is little difference. Going forward QR codes, using a technology called Code Z invented by CODI in Canada can embed customer information in the code. When the click is made, the interaction is linked to the information about the person who made the click. If that becomes mainstream it could be a game changer.

Meanwhile yesterday Apple announced that G3 iPhone is going to sell for $99 and every telecom on the planet is rushing to build 4G networks. 

Sometimes the difference between appearing innovative and being innovative depends on your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are harvesting the data and using it to prove that print advertising works, then it&#8217;s smart.</p>
<p>If they are harvesting the data and sending it along to the journalists to help them see which stories have traction, then it&#8217;s smart.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t harvest the data, then it&#8217;s just as you say.</p>
<p>Re QR codes v tinyurls. Today there is little difference. Going forward QR codes, using a technology called Code Z invented by CODI in Canada can embed customer information in the code. When the click is made, the interaction is linked to the information about the person who made the click. If that becomes mainstream it could be a game changer.</p>
<p>Meanwhile yesterday Apple announced that G3 iPhone is going to sell for $99 and every telecom on the planet is rushing to build 4G networks. </p>
<p>Sometimes the difference between appearing innovative and being innovative depends on your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: @SteveatLFPress</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-18604</link>
		<dc:creator>@SteveatLFPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onyi -- Fantastic insight re the character issues in Asia versus Western alphabet. That makes it a much more necessary technology in those countries.

It&#039;s interesting to note that The National Post in Canada has begun to use these, and they include the condensed URL right beside the 2D barcode.  It highlights even further for me that this is pointless the way it has been adopted. They&#039;re just taking space away from the story with no tangible benefit other than to appear &#039;innovative&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onyi &#8212; Fantastic insight re the character issues in Asia versus Western alphabet. That makes it a much more necessary technology in those countries.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that The National Post in Canada has begun to use these, and they include the condensed URL right beside the 2D barcode.  It highlights even further for me that this is pointless the way it has been adopted. They&#8217;re just taking space away from the story with no tangible benefit other than to appear &#8216;innovative&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17499</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onyi,

Thanks for the observations. It&#039;s something that never occurred to me. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Euro Language countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onyi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the observations. It&#8217;s something that never occurred to me. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Euro Language countries.</p>
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		<title>By: onyi</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17484</link>
		<dc:creator>onyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m just doing some prelim research as an artist assistant, and found this thread very interesting and educational.

the question posted regarding QRcode&#039;s popularity in Asian countries such as Japan and Korea may partly rest in the different systems of language. 

navigating to a url, even a shortened url would require the use of the Western alphabet/keyboard; this is very different from the symbol based system that Asian language is based on.(As a North American person of Asian descent, and having used an Asian keyboard for simple tasks, it can feel very trying unless it is a fully integrated part of one&#039;s lifestyle.)

with this in mind, Asian countries have adapted to certain Western standards in order to navigate  the internet like the rest of us, however with the option of a symbol based &#039;snap-and-go&#039; system this frees the user from typing in alphanumeric characters into a web browser field. 

i think it is this key difference that leads North American markets (very slow to change) and some European markets to believe that the learning curve and the extra software required to use QRcode is more work than necessary for a system that already functions well (for Western markets especially).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m just doing some prelim research as an artist assistant, and found this thread very interesting and educational.</p>
<p>the question posted regarding QRcode&#8217;s popularity in Asian countries such as Japan and Korea may partly rest in the different systems of language. </p>
<p>navigating to a url, even a shortened url would require the use of the Western alphabet/keyboard; this is very different from the symbol based system that Asian language is based on.(As a North American person of Asian descent, and having used an Asian keyboard for simple tasks, it can feel very trying unless it is a fully integrated part of one&#8217;s lifestyle.)</p>
<p>with this in mind, Asian countries have adapted to certain Western standards in order to navigate  the internet like the rest of us, however with the option of a symbol based &#8216;snap-and-go&#8217; system this frees the user from typing in alphanumeric characters into a web browser field. </p>
<p>i think it is this key difference that leads North American markets (very slow to change) and some European markets to believe that the learning curve and the extra software required to use QRcode is more work than necessary for a system that already functions well (for Western markets especially).</p>
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		<title>By: SCOTT JENSEN</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17426</link>
		<dc:creator>SCOTT JENSEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Windsor (comment #1) asked if you could read code if phone is not hardwired. YES U CAN! Just take a picture of the code and send it to snappr@snappr.net and within seconds they will return to u what the code holds. Will work on desktop or any phone with a camera and internet.
Have fun snapping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Windsor (comment #1) asked if you could read code if phone is not hardwired. YES U CAN! Just take a picture of the code and send it to <a href="mailto:snappr@snappr.net">snappr@snappr.net</a> and within seconds they will return to u what the code holds. Will work on desktop or any phone with a camera and internet.<br />
Have fun snapping!</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17318</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the answer to the ubiquity of QR codes, etc in Asia has to do with the penetration of broadband.  America is way behind the rest of the developed world in broad band. Korea and Japan are leaders. 

No doubt there is also a specific history and culture that helps explain the broad adoption. It might well be that the major electronics gadget companies are based in Japan.

Both Android and the iPhone have QR reader software available now. As Android moves to become the operating system of more and more cell phones, I can&#039;t see what stops this from becoming commonplace.

The Walkman grew and developed in Japan. Only when it was debugged and tested in place did it scale to what I like to think of as Euromerica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the answer to the ubiquity of QR codes, etc in Asia has to do with the penetration of broadband.  America is way behind the rest of the developed world in broad band. Korea and Japan are leaders. </p>
<p>No doubt there is also a specific history and culture that helps explain the broad adoption. It might well be that the major electronics gadget companies are based in Japan.</p>
<p>Both Android and the iPhone have QR reader software available now. As Android moves to become the operating system of more and more cell phones, I can&#8217;t see what stops this from becoming commonplace.</p>
<p>The Walkman grew and developed in Japan. Only when it was debugged and tested in place did it scale to what I like to think of as Euromerica.</p>
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		<title>By: @SteveatLFPress</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17315</link>
		<dc:creator>@SteveatLFPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MichaelJ,

I&#039;ve wondered about the ubiquity of QR Code in Asia myself -- and don&#039;t have an answer unfortunately. It hasn&#039;t taken off in Europe either, a hotbed of mobile computing. A similar question is why vending machines in Asia allow you to pay via RFID and Bluetooth, but I&#039;ve not seen one such vending machine in North America outside of a few test markets.

Is it because of a tech-centric culture in Asia? Is it because Japanese mobile devices all have QR Code decoders built into the devices&#039; operating systems?  Maybe if RIM&#039;s BlackBerry and Apple&#039;s iPhone had native QR Code support, we would see some interesting ideas in North America.

On your point re convenience, I couldn&#039;t agree more. I guess we keep looking for opportunities to integrate QR Code, and keep close tabs on Microsoft&#039;s TAG initiative. They have the marketing muscle to move this concept mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelJ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about the ubiquity of QR Code in Asia myself &#8212; and don&#8217;t have an answer unfortunately. It hasn&#8217;t taken off in Europe either, a hotbed of mobile computing. A similar question is why vending machines in Asia allow you to pay via RFID and Bluetooth, but I&#8217;ve not seen one such vending machine in North America outside of a few test markets.</p>
<p>Is it because of a tech-centric culture in Asia? Is it because Japanese mobile devices all have QR Code decoders built into the devices&#8217; operating systems?  Maybe if RIM&#8217;s BlackBerry and Apple&#8217;s iPhone had native QR Code support, we would see some interesting ideas in North America.</p>
<p>On your point re convenience, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I guess we keep looking for opportunities to integrate QR Code, and keep close tabs on Microsoft&#8217;s TAG initiative. They have the marketing muscle to move this concept mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17173</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Steve,
I&#039;m interested in any thoughts you may have about the ubiquity of QR codes in Japan and Korea. I think the difference between QR codes or visual recognition tech is much less important than the seamless experience of connecting the physical world - newspapers, posters, books, etc. with particularly videos on the web.

In general it would be a mistake to underestimate the importance of convenience. Framed differently convenience is at the heart of usability. In that sense the Mac GUI is much more convenient than Windows and print is a very convenient platform when it is connected to the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Steve,<br />
I&#8217;m interested in any thoughts you may have about the ubiquity of QR codes in Japan and Korea. I think the difference between QR codes or visual recognition tech is much less important than the seamless experience of connecting the physical world &#8211; newspapers, posters, books, etc. with particularly videos on the web.</p>
<p>In general it would be a mistake to underestimate the importance of convenience. Framed differently convenience is at the heart of usability. In that sense the Mac GUI is much more convenient than Windows and print is a very convenient platform when it is connected to the web.</p>
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		<title>By: @SteveatLFPress</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-17144</link>
		<dc:creator>@SteveatLFPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:

What I&#039;m submitting is that the extra effort to have people install a QR Code reader isn&#039;t justified to save them from simply typing in something as simple as &#039;tr.im/LDNnews&#039; or a vanity URL to that effect.  Now, QR Codes can store actual information in the code itself, not unlike any 2D barcode format such as is common on shipping labels. But what would you store in the code that you simply couldn&#039;t display more effectively in a mobile web page?

Where I believe Snaptell will take us a place where you could take a picture of any ad -- the ad itself, not the vanity URL -- and it would be able to recognize the content and return a mobile web page of information.  With Snaptell you could take pictures of print ads, billboards, even captures of TV screens with commercials playing, and the tool could return a mobile web page from said advertiser.  A Snaptell-like tool should also be able to return such info as the prices of said products from local retailers based on the GPS data on the iPhone or BlackBerry.

A Snaptell-like tool could also allow a person to take a picture of a landmark, or a photo in a print article, or any number of other such applications, and take the user to editorial pages of information.  What I&#039;m suggesting is a more effective marrying of photo recognition technology with search technology.  One which would have both advertising and editorial applications.

I&#039;m not suggesting that QR Code is a pointless exercise. I&#039;m just saying that I&#039;ve given it a lot of thought and I can&#039;t come up with anything that the QR Code adds other than a way to more efficiently type in a URL into a mobile web browser -- nothing less, but nothing more.  I think we need to look beyond that to a system that really solves a problem for mainstream consumers.

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m submitting is that the extra effort to have people install a QR Code reader isn&#8217;t justified to save them from simply typing in something as simple as &#8216;tr.im/LDNnews&#8217; or a vanity URL to that effect.  Now, QR Codes can store actual information in the code itself, not unlike any 2D barcode format such as is common on shipping labels. But what would you store in the code that you simply couldn&#8217;t display more effectively in a mobile web page?</p>
<p>Where I believe Snaptell will take us a place where you could take a picture of any ad &#8212; the ad itself, not the vanity URL &#8212; and it would be able to recognize the content and return a mobile web page of information.  With Snaptell you could take pictures of print ads, billboards, even captures of TV screens with commercials playing, and the tool could return a mobile web page from said advertiser.  A Snaptell-like tool should also be able to return such info as the prices of said products from local retailers based on the GPS data on the iPhone or BlackBerry.</p>
<p>A Snaptell-like tool could also allow a person to take a picture of a landmark, or a photo in a print article, or any number of other such applications, and take the user to editorial pages of information.  What I&#8217;m suggesting is a more effective marrying of photo recognition technology with search technology.  One which would have both advertising and editorial applications.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that QR Code is a pointless exercise. I&#8217;m just saying that I&#8217;ve given it a lot of thought and I can&#8217;t come up with anything that the QR Code adds other than a way to more efficiently type in a URL into a mobile web browser &#8212; nothing less, but nothing more.  I think we need to look beyond that to a system that really solves a problem for mainstream consumers.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16734</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:
You mean you would rather print a vanity URL people have to type into their cellphone browser than give them a QR code to point at (assuming, as Michael says, first there is wider adoption of QR on the ad side)?  I do suppose Snaptell could evolve to where you take a picture of the printed URL and the phone takes you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:<br />
You mean you would rather print a vanity URL people have to type into their cellphone browser than give them a QR code to point at (assuming, as Michael says, first there is wider adoption of QR on the ad side)?  I do suppose Snaptell could evolve to where you take a picture of the printed URL and the phone takes you there.</p>
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		<title>By: @SteveatLFPress</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16730</link>
		<dc:creator>@SteveatLFPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have struggled for the better part of a year to find a journalism or advertising problem that QR Codes, or the more recent Microsoft TAG system could address.  As any IT person will tell you when you have to look hard to find a problem to fit the solution you&#039;ve already got, it ain&#039;t going to work.

I can&#039;t think of one possible application for QR Codes that you couldn&#039;t address with a simple compressed vanity URL.

Snaptell for the iPhone (www.snaptell.com) is probably a better starting point for a possible solution. For example, take a picture of a building and the system recognizes it and retrieves articles from your web site related to that location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have struggled for the better part of a year to find a journalism or advertising problem that QR Codes, or the more recent Microsoft TAG system could address.  As any IT person will tell you when you have to look hard to find a problem to fit the solution you&#8217;ve already got, it ain&#8217;t going to work.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of one possible application for QR Codes that you couldn&#8217;t address with a simple compressed vanity URL.</p>
<p>Snaptell for the iPhone (www.snaptell.com) is probably a better starting point for a possible solution. For example, take a picture of a building and the system recognizes it and retrieves articles from your web site related to that location.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16721</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops.. no edit button...the sentence &quot;repurpose it for advertising&quot; should read &quot;repurpose it for print newspapers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops.. no edit button&#8230;the sentence &#8220;repurpose it for advertising&#8221; should read &#8220;repurpose it for print newspapers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16720</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the very fact that the technology is well proven in advertising is the opportunity to take that tech and repurpose it for advertising.

Much of the buzz is about how do we get the younger generation to get involved with newspapers. Imagine a contest on the top of page 1 with a QR code. Take the picture, go to the site to see if and what you&#039;ve won. Newspapers have been running contests for ever. It&#039;s just a contest with a new tech.

My sense is that the mass, as opposed to the technorati and news junkies, of the younger generation is not a mass market for news of any type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the very fact that the technology is well proven in advertising is the opportunity to take that tech and repurpose it for advertising.</p>
<p>Much of the buzz is about how do we get the younger generation to get involved with newspapers. Imagine a contest on the top of page 1 with a QR code. Take the picture, go to the site to see if and what you&#8217;ve won. Newspapers have been running contests for ever. It&#8217;s just a contest with a new tech.</p>
<p>My sense is that the mass, as opposed to the technorati and news junkies, of the younger generation is not a mass market for news of any type.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16672</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These codes are absolutely everywhere in Japan but I&#039;m not sure how much they are really used in print journalism. The main use seems to be in advertising. For example, chains of clothing stores have them up on the walls, you scan the code, sign up online, and get a discount. Or people hand out packets of tissues in the street with the code on to take you to website.

The advantage of using them for advertising seems fairly obvious - you can grab someone in real life and get them looking at another advert or buying something.

For news though younger people will be already getting it on their phones and older salaryman types probably won&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These codes are absolutely everywhere in Japan but I&#8217;m not sure how much they are really used in print journalism. The main use seems to be in advertising. For example, chains of clothing stores have them up on the walls, you scan the code, sign up online, and get a discount. Or people hand out packets of tissues in the street with the code on to take you to website.</p>
<p>The advantage of using them for advertising seems fairly obvious &#8211; you can grab someone in real life and get them looking at another advert or buying something.</p>
<p>For news though younger people will be already getting it on their phones and older salaryman types probably won&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16604</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to get this site on people&#039;s radar. http://2d-code.co.uk/

They keep track of uses of QR codes around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to get this site on people&#8217;s radar. <a href="http://2d-code.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://2d-code.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>They keep track of uses of QR codes around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16556</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, if only .001% of print readers scan the printed QR, that would bite print advertising, not web advertising.  And I have a different take on Web clickthroughs.  If you get a clickthrough rate of a quarter or half a percent, which is fairly typical, in my view that&#039;s great.  If you ran a print ad in a paper with 100,000 readers, and one quarter of one percent (250) walked into your store, you&#039;d be ecstatic.  If that percentage click through to your web site, it might not be quite as good, but I look at it as delivering you a customer, and now it&#039;s your job to make the sale.  If you can make your ad more &quot;interactive&quot; (watch a video, do a survey), the participation rate increases.

In any case, though I&#039;m a business-side guy, I&#039;m actually more interested in the journalistic applications here that can drive print readers to web content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, if only .001% of print readers scan the printed QR, that would bite print advertising, not web advertising.  And I have a different take on Web clickthroughs.  If you get a clickthrough rate of a quarter or half a percent, which is fairly typical, in my view that&#8217;s great.  If you ran a print ad in a paper with 100,000 readers, and one quarter of one percent (250) walked into your store, you&#8217;d be ecstatic.  If that percentage click through to your web site, it might not be quite as good, but I look at it as delivering you a customer, and now it&#8217;s your job to make the sale.  If you can make your ad more &#8220;interactive&#8221; (watch a video, do a survey), the participation rate increases.</p>
<p>In any case, though I&#8217;m a business-side guy, I&#8217;m actually more interested in the journalistic applications here that can drive print readers to web content.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Benton</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16554</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my skepticism derives from the fact that this is an idea whose major benefit is to advertisers (more sophisticated use data) but which asks a behavior change of consumers. It was the same argument with the CueCat: the alleged benefit was to the advertiser, but all the behavior change was in the hands of consumers. And no one was willing to do it.

Also, just to speak cynically from an ad sales point of view, do we really want advertisers to get more clickthrough data to use against us? I mean, online ad prices have been driven down by a lot of things, but one factor is that the ability to track clickthroughs online has given advertisers evidence that very, very few readers were &quot;interacting&quot; with their ads. And that&#039;s contributed to the downward pressure. If suddenly advertisers are given another data point that shows only 0.001% of their readers actually shoot the QR code with their phones and go to the special web site, isn&#039;t that likely to bite us in the end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my skepticism derives from the fact that this is an idea whose major benefit is to advertisers (more sophisticated use data) but which asks a behavior change of consumers. It was the same argument with the CueCat: the alleged benefit was to the advertiser, but all the behavior change was in the hands of consumers. And no one was willing to do it.</p>
<p>Also, just to speak cynically from an ad sales point of view, do we really want advertisers to get more clickthrough data to use against us? I mean, online ad prices have been driven down by a lot of things, but one factor is that the ability to track clickthroughs online has given advertisers evidence that very, very few readers were &#8220;interacting&#8221; with their ads. And that&#8217;s contributed to the downward pressure. If suddenly advertisers are given another data point that shows only 0.001% of their readers actually shoot the QR code with their phones and go to the special web site, isn&#8217;t that likely to bite us in the end?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16543</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another idea (found on Twitter): Put one on your business card.  People you give it to can instantly view your site on their phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another idea (found on Twitter): Put one on your business card.  People you give it to can instantly view your site on their phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16542</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assumption here is that a lot of Web reading will move to mobile devices.  Again, in the U.S. we&#039;re way behind most of the rest of the world in making that shift.

Josh wrote &quot;What&#039;s wrong with good old fashioned links&quot;; Dave wrote &quot;URL shortening is good enough.&quot;

That&#039;s fine if you&#039;re already on a web page.  But in print, without QR, all you can do is print the URL, or its shortened version.  Now you have to type that into your iPhone or other mobile device to view the web page.  The idea of QR is that you can point, scan, and be on that page without the hassle of entering a URL.  My understanding is that there are apps for iPhone and others that can do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assumption here is that a lot of Web reading will move to mobile devices.  Again, in the U.S. we&#8217;re way behind most of the rest of the world in making that shift.</p>
<p>Josh wrote &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with good old fashioned links&#8221;; Dave wrote &#8220;URL shortening is good enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine if you&#8217;re already on a web page.  But in print, without QR, all you can do is print the URL, or its shortened version.  Now you have to type that into your iPhone or other mobile device to view the web page.  The idea of QR is that you can point, scan, and be on that page without the hassle of entering a URL.  My understanding is that there are apps for iPhone and others that can do this.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelJ</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16527</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, 
Thank you for picking up the post.

Josh,
The counter example is that QR codes are ubiquitous in Japan are quickly moving to Australia and now Europe. I think we have to be careful of the &quot;people like us&quot; problem. I still have to figure out how to take a picture on a cell phone and email me to my son. Frankly, it&#039;s not worth the effort to learn.

On the other hand he (37 years old) does it all the time so I can get photos of the granddaughter.

The real issue are the real time metrics that can be delivered back to advertisers. Once real time data can be delivered from print, the apparent insurmountable advantage of web advertising starts to ebb.

The real breakthrough, in my not so humble opinion, will be in K - 12 education. A single printed sheet can give the headlines with a QR code to take a student to a wiki or video adding to the student&#039;s knowledge at just the moment that he is interested in it. I&#039;ve seen high school kids with their cell phones, they would love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,<br />
Thank you for picking up the post.</p>
<p>Josh,<br />
The counter example is that QR codes are ubiquitous in Japan are quickly moving to Australia and now Europe. I think we have to be careful of the &#8220;people like us&#8221; problem. I still have to figure out how to take a picture on a cell phone and email me to my son. Frankly, it&#8217;s not worth the effort to learn.</p>
<p>On the other hand he (37 years old) does it all the time so I can get photos of the granddaughter.</p>
<p>The real issue are the real time metrics that can be delivered back to advertisers. Once real time data can be delivered from print, the apparent insurmountable advantage of web advertising starts to ebb.</p>
<p>The real breakthrough, in my not so humble opinion, will be in K &#8211; 12 education. A single printed sheet can give the headlines with a QR code to take a student to a wiki or video adding to the student&#8217;s knowledge at just the moment that he is interested in it. I&#8217;ve seen high school kids with their cell phones, they would love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16525</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>URL shortening is good enough.</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua Benton</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16517</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Bilton at the NYT has also talked up this sort of technology -- specifically &lt;a href=&quot;http://semacode.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Semacodes&lt;/a&gt;, in his case. At his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toccon.com/toc2009/public/schedule/speaker/40051&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TOC speech&lt;/a&gt; a couple months back, he said we could expect to see something like this in the Times in relatively short order.

That said...geez, am I ever skeptical. Maybe I&#039;m scarred from working at The Dallas Morning News at the height of the CueCat insanity, but this feels like a solution in search of a problem. I just can&#039;t imagine a ton of people seeing great value in something like this. What&#039;s wrong with good old fashioned links? They can accomplish everything this can, from an end user&#039;s point of view, but they can also be human readable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Bilton at the NYT has also talked up this sort of technology &#8212; specifically <a href="http://semacode.com/" rel="nofollow">Semacodes</a>, in his case. At his <a href="http://www.toccon.com/toc2009/public/schedule/speaker/40051" rel="nofollow">TOC speech</a> a couple months back, he said we could expect to see something like this in the Times in relatively short order.</p>
<p>That said&#8230;geez, am I ever skeptical. Maybe I&#8217;m scarred from working at The Dallas Morning News at the height of the CueCat insanity, but this feels like a solution in search of a problem. I just can&#8217;t imagine a ton of people seeing great value in something like this. What&#8217;s wrong with good old fashioned links? They can accomplish everything this can, from an end user&#8217;s point of view, but they can also be human readable.</p>
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		<title>By: QR-code para jornalistas &#124; MediaCircus</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16515</link>
		<dc:creator>QR-code para jornalistas &#124; MediaCircus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Niemanlab, da faculdade de comunicação da Universidade de Harvard, mostra como os jornalistas podem usar os [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Windsor</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/05/qr-code-tool-for-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-16514</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Windsor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way to use this code if your phonecam isn&#039;t hardwired to recognize it?</description>
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