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	<title>Comments on: Knight News Challenge announces a (smaller) slate of winners for 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Metrics, impact, and business plans: Things to watch for as the Knight News Challenge enters a new cycle » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metrics, impact, and business plans: Things to watch for as the Knight News Challenge enters a new cycle » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In recent years, it&#8217;s been something of a parlor game in future-of-journalism circles to speculate about the $25 million Knight News Challenge: Who&#8217;s going to win this year? What are the judges looking for, exactly? And, whoa, how on earth did that finalist get passed up? (On that last question, see CoPress in 2009; e.g., read the comments on this post.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In recent years, it&#8217;s been something of a parlor game in future-of-journalism circles to speculate about the $25 million Knight News Challenge: Who&#8217;s going to win this year? What are the judges looking for, exactly? And, whoa, how on earth did that finalist get passed up? (On that last question, see CoPress in 2009; e.g., read the comments on this post.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kebbel on the Knight News Challenge: Repetitive ideas, tougher judges hurt some applicants &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Kebbel on the Knight News Challenge: Repetitive ideas, tougher judges hurt some applicants &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] director at the Knight Foundation and, thus, the administrator of the Knight News Challenge, which announced its newest set of winners yesterday. (News Challenge winners new and old are meeting at MIT this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AMB Album &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-30889</link>
		<dc:creator>AMB Album &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] watcher Joshua Benton at Harvard&#8217;s Neiman Media Lab said diplomatically today that he thought the applicant pool, winners and prizes were a little disappointing &#8211; but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Complete Knight News Challenge coverage &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-20450</link>
		<dc:creator>Complete Knight News Challenge coverage &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] profiled all nine winners of the 2009 Knight News Challenge. Links to all nine are now available on our post announcing the winners last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] profiled all nine winners of the 2009 Knight News Challenge. Links to all nine are now available on our post announcing the winners last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Bucqueroux</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-20006</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Bucqueroux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The knock on the Knight Challenge is that it focuses more on the bottle than the wine - always looking for a glitzy new tech tool rather than a unique concept. Yet the history of grant-funded online innovation has not been all the promising. Funders put a bundle into OurMedia, which promised to allow me to upload video. But it was a dud. Once the commercial venture YouTube became available, OurMedia was dead in the water. I know plenty of online startups that once looked to the Knight Challenge as a potential funder, but they soon realized that the bias was toward new geek tools. If I am wrong, please assure me that applying would be worth my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The knock on the Knight Challenge is that it focuses more on the bottle than the wine &#8211; always looking for a glitzy new tech tool rather than a unique concept. Yet the history of grant-funded online innovation has not been all the promising. Funders put a bundle into OurMedia, which promised to allow me to upload video. But it was a dud. Once the commercial venture YouTube became available, OurMedia was dead in the water. I know plenty of online startups that once looked to the Knight Challenge as a potential funder, but they soon realized that the bias was toward new geek tools. If I am wrong, please assure me that applying would be worth my time.</p>
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		<title>By: What color should I paint my kitchen? &#124; Interior Design Colleges</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19950</link>
		<dc:creator>What color should I paint my kitchen? &#124; Interior Design Colleges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Knight News Challenge announces a (smaller) slate of winners for &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19862</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: decision about CoPress, that link is actually to our first round application. Our application (and organization) evolved significantly in the period of time between the November deadline and when we were told of the decision at the beginning of June.

Daniel Bachhuber, Executive Director, CoPress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: decision about CoPress, that link is actually to our first round application. Our application (and organization) evolved significantly in the period of time between the November deadline and when we were told of the decision at the beginning of June.</p>
<p>Daniel Bachhuber, Executive Director, CoPress</p>
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		<title>By: karhec</title>
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		<dc:creator>karhec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This appears to contain the decision basis on copress - 

http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=4b47516e-497b-426d-98b4-7f04c60413e5&amp;itemguid=33cebf50-84ac-4dbd-bea2-212abd45c276</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This appears to contain the decision basis on copress &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=4b47516e-497b-426d-98b4-7f04c60413e5&#038;itemguid=33cebf50-84ac-4dbd-bea2-212abd45c276" rel="nofollow">http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=4b47516e-497b-426d-98b4-7f04c60413e5&#038;itemguid=33cebf50-84ac-4dbd-bea2-212abd45c276</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy @ WSB</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19786</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy @ WSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of always looking for new ideas - how about a shift in focus, or at least a sideline, for helping semi-established &quot;new ideas&quot; get to the next level? 

Our successful neighborhood-news service evolved in a way that gave us no chance to ever put it forward as a proposal - it grew out of a conventional &quot;blog&quot; - but while we are doing quite well with what we do now, there are so many other things I would like to add, to expand to ... but they require capital ... 3 to 6 months of a developer&#039;s time, perhaps, for example. 

While programs like this are always barking after the next shiny new idea to race down the track, I propose there is something to learn from some of us out here who blundered into success ... and something to be gained by offering some help. 

Since we&#039;re not creating fancy new techy tools to share with the world, we don&#039;t get the zillion-dollar VC attention, but I suggest there could be value to helping some of us who &quot;are&quot; doing something grow, rather than bestowing all the attention and cash onto the next group of people who &quot;might&quot; be able to do something.

Just a thought of what might be worth considering, if the pool of these bright shiny new ideas is truly shrinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of always looking for new ideas &#8211; how about a shift in focus, or at least a sideline, for helping semi-established &#8220;new ideas&#8221; get to the next level? </p>
<p>Our successful neighborhood-news service evolved in a way that gave us no chance to ever put it forward as a proposal &#8211; it grew out of a conventional &#8220;blog&#8221; &#8211; but while we are doing quite well with what we do now, there are so many other things I would like to add, to expand to &#8230; but they require capital &#8230; 3 to 6 months of a developer&#8217;s time, perhaps, for example. </p>
<p>While programs like this are always barking after the next shiny new idea to race down the track, I propose there is something to learn from some of us out here who blundered into success &#8230; and something to be gained by offering some help. </p>
<p>Since we&#8217;re not creating fancy new techy tools to share with the world, we don&#8217;t get the zillion-dollar VC attention, but I suggest there could be value to helping some of us who &#8220;are&#8221; doing something grow, rather than bestowing all the attention and cash onto the next group of people who &#8220;might&#8221; be able to do something.</p>
<p>Just a thought of what might be worth considering, if the pool of these bright shiny new ideas is truly shrinking.</p>
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		<title>By: My Site! &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Site! &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] watcher Joshua Benton at Harvard&#8217;s Neiman Media Lab said diplomatically today that he thought the applicant pool, winners and prizes were a little disappointing &#8211; but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Knight News Challenge: Ushahidi crowdsources the truth when reporters aren&#8217;t around &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19652</link>
		<dc:creator>Knight News Challenge: Ushahidi crowdsources the truth when reporters aren&#8217;t around &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] riveted with news and photos pouring out of Iran. It seems particularly appropriate, then, that the Knight News Challenge also announced its grant recipients this week. Many of the platforms developed for the Challenge are aimed at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; Techdare</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; Techdare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] watcher Joshua Benton at Harvard&#8217;s Neiman Media Lab said diplomatically today that he thought the applicant pool, winners and prizes were a little disappointing - but several of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; KGRAND ONLINE NEWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; KGRAND ONLINE NEWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TumbleTech &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>TumbleTech &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Knighted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knighted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

Thanks for the details re: NYTimes. I don&#039;t see why these organizations couldn&#039;t have pooled their money to build this if it&#039;s so important to them, but what&#039;s done is done.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the details re: NYTimes. I don&#8217;t see why these organizations couldn&#8217;t have pooled their money to build this if it&#8217;s so important to them, but what&#8217;s done is done.</p>
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		<title>By: DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; UpOff.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; UpOff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the hive &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19462</link>
		<dc:creator>the hive &#187; DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; koala eye</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19457</link>
		<dc:creator>DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; koala eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; GroupHelp.NET - Easy everything!</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19455</link>
		<dc:creator>DocumentCloud Gets Funding to Create Research Memory Bank in the Sky &#124; GroupHelp.NET - Easy everything!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joshua Benton</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19454</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify something about the NYT. DocumentCloud will not be in any way &quot;owned&quot; by the NYT. It&#039;s going to be open source, and the NYT&#039;s main relationship to the project is letting Aron and Ben spend some time working on it despite being full-time NYT employees. The Times will be a member of DocumentCloud, but so will be TPM and other news orgs. So I think to say the NYT is somehow profiting from Knight&#039;s largess is unfair.

Also, I asked Gary Kebbel of Knight why CoPress wasn&#039;t chosen. He said (reasonably, I think) that he couldn&#039;t discuss that with me, but said he would be happy to talk with someone from CoPress about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify something about the NYT. DocumentCloud will not be in any way &#8220;owned&#8221; by the NYT. It&#8217;s going to be open source, and the NYT&#8217;s main relationship to the project is letting Aron and Ben spend some time working on it despite being full-time NYT employees. The Times will be a member of DocumentCloud, but so will be TPM and other news orgs. So I think to say the NYT is somehow profiting from Knight&#8217;s largess is unfair.</p>
<p>Also, I asked Gary Kebbel of Knight why CoPress wasn&#8217;t chosen. He said (reasonably, I think) that he couldn&#8217;t discuss that with me, but said he would be happy to talk with someone from CoPress about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Knighted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knighted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other questions for the Knight peeps:

1. Is the Gotham Gazette&#039;s local wiki idea SO good that it deserved to become the first and only repeat winner in the only program that funds journalism startups?  Were the other ideas really so bad that the committee felt justified in giving a quarter of a million dollars to a program that&#039;s already received that much?  What happened to the first grant anyway?  How successful could it have been if they were back asking for money again?

2. What&#039;s the real scoop with the ASU project?  Did they simply have a solid idea at the right price point?  I know ASU has been trying to position itself as a destination for new media journalists and a thought leader in the &quot;field.&quot;  Was this award a paeon to their efforts?  Did the school play a part in helping these two?  I ask because its curious that their ASU alumni ties would be so prominently mentioned in the coverage of them I&#039;ve seen today.  Who cares where they went to school....other than ASU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other questions for the Knight peeps:</p>
<p>1. Is the Gotham Gazette&#8217;s local wiki idea SO good that it deserved to become the first and only repeat winner in the only program that funds journalism startups?  Were the other ideas really so bad that the committee felt justified in giving a quarter of a million dollars to a program that&#8217;s already received that much?  What happened to the first grant anyway?  How successful could it have been if they were back asking for money again?</p>
<p>2. What&#8217;s the real scoop with the ASU project?  Did they simply have a solid idea at the right price point?  I know ASU has been trying to position itself as a destination for new media journalists and a thought leader in the &#8220;field.&#8221;  Was this award a paeon to their efforts?  Did the school play a part in helping these two?  I ask because its curious that their ASU alumni ties would be so prominently mentioned in the coverage of them I&#8217;ve seen today.  Who cares where they went to school&#8230;.other than ASU?</p>
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		<title>By: Knighted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knighted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan, my sympathies go out to you.  I do think it&#039;s pretty weak sauce that the NYTimes even applied, much less siphoned of $700,000 from the award pot for their project, when they have the money already and are simply choosing to spend it on other things.  If this project is too low of a priority for the Times to pay for it, maybe the funding should go to someone for whom their project is a priority.

I have no idea why they didn&#039;t pick your CoPress effort, but I wonder whether the problems facing college news rooms are really all that big a deal at the end of the day.  When you have a choice between funding an effort that promises to wire up or connect an African village and one that promises to make it easier for upper middle class americans to write stories about their classmates...well, that&#039;s probably an easy decision for the journalists on the panel to make.

You may have a solid business on your hands, just maybe not a project that will catch the eye of this particular crowd.  Who knows.  Good luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, my sympathies go out to you.  I do think it&#8217;s pretty weak sauce that the NYTimes even applied, much less siphoned of $700,000 from the award pot for their project, when they have the money already and are simply choosing to spend it on other things.  If this project is too low of a priority for the Times to pay for it, maybe the funding should go to someone for whom their project is a priority.</p>
<p>I have no idea why they didn&#8217;t pick your CoPress effort, but I wonder whether the problems facing college news rooms are really all that big a deal at the end of the day.  When you have a choice between funding an effort that promises to wire up or connect an African village and one that promises to make it easier for upper middle class americans to write stories about their classmates&#8230;well, that&#8217;s probably an easy decision for the journalists on the panel to make.</p>
<p>You may have a solid business on your hands, just maybe not a project that will catch the eye of this particular crowd.  Who knows.  Good luck to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems unlikely that there are fewer good ideas out there. With journalism facing the challenges and changes that it is facing a rise in creativity and originality is both absolutely necessary and, I suspect, inevitable. It may be, however, as you unintentionally point out at the end that more and more projects are expanding the boundaries of journalism proper to such an extent that the criteria of the grants can no longer recognize their work as pertaining to journalism. It may be that our most fundamental understandings of what journalism is must undergo some basic changes. There are some great interviews with top journalists concerning these issues at http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sectionex/Itemid,200076/id,8/view,category/#catid69</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems unlikely that there are fewer good ideas out there. With journalism facing the challenges and changes that it is facing a rise in creativity and originality is both absolutely necessary and, I suspect, inevitable. It may be, however, as you unintentionally point out at the end that more and more projects are expanding the boundaries of journalism proper to such an extent that the criteria of the grants can no longer recognize their work as pertaining to journalism. It may be that our most fundamental understandings of what journalism is must undergo some basic changes. There are some great interviews with top journalists concerning these issues at <a href="http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sectionex/Itemid,200076/id,8/view,category/#catid69" rel="nofollow">http://www.ourblook.com/component/option,com_sectionex/Itemid,200076/id,8/view,category/#catid69</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Benton</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/knight-news-challenge-announces-a-smaller-slate-of-winners-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-19421</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really good question, Bryan. CoPress is the most obvious missing potential winner, from the ones I knew about, at least. I&#039;ll try to ask someone here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good question, Bryan. CoPress is the most obvious missing potential winner, from the ones I knew about, at least. I&#8217;ll try to ask someone here.</p>
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		<title>By: Knight News Challenge winners may help students &#171; journajunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knight News Challenge winners may help students &#171; journajunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 17, 2009 &#183; No Comments  Twitter is abuzz with the announcement of the 2009 winners of the Knight News Challenge, a project that funds news experiments with the goal of helping [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 17, 2009 &middot; No Comments  Twitter is abuzz with the announcement of the 2009 winners of the Knight News Challenge, a project that funds news experiments with the goal of helping [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Murley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Murley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the buzz for months in future-of-journalism circles has been that the News Challenge hadn’t generated as many ideas to get excited about as in previous years.&quot;

Ask them why CoPress wasn&#039;t funded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the buzz for months in future-of-journalism circles has been that the News Challenge hadn’t generated as many ideas to get excited about as in previous years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ask them why CoPress wasn&#8217;t funded.</p>
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		<title>By: Knight News Challenge 2009 : Ponto Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knight News Challenge 2009 : Ponto Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JÁ SÃO conhecidos os vencedores do Knight News Challenge 2009. [...]</description>
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