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	<title>Comments on: An extremely expensive cover story — with a new way of footing the bill</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marzorati said, almost $ 400,000, it is estimated that this will be part of the cost of staff time if it is generated completely. 

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		<title>By: 1,900 copies: How a top-selling Kindle Single is generating new audiences for ProPublica &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>1,900 copies: How a top-selling Kindle Single is generating new audiences for ProPublica &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story on the chaos at a hospital devastated by Hurricane Katrina — the New York Times Magazine piece that won ProPublica its Pulitzer — was about the same length as Rotella&#8217;s story, around [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pour quelques lecteurs de plus &#187; Can philanthropy save investigative reporting? ProPublica bets yes, it can.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pour quelques lecteurs de plus &#187; Can philanthropy save investigative reporting? ProPublica bets yes, it can.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For the Nieman Journalism Lab, ProPublica&#8217;s initiative stars &#8220;new economics of news production&#8221; in the very expensive field of investigative journalism. ProPublica&#8217;s team of 32 journalists does not cover breaking news on the spot, but vows to focus on in-depth stories that traditional media no longer have the time or resources to venture into. The articles can then be republished free of charge by anyone via a Creative Commons licence, hence the unusual invitation which appears on the front page of ProPublica&#8217;s website: “Steal our stories”. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For the Nieman Journalism Lab, ProPublica&#8217;s initiative stars &#8220;new economics of news production&#8221; in the very expensive field of investigative journalism. ProPublica&#8217;s team of 32 journalists does not cover breaking news on the spot, but vows to focus on in-depth stories that traditional media no longer have the time or resources to venture into. The articles can then be republished free of charge by anyone via a Creative Commons licence, hence the unusual invitation which appears on the front page of ProPublica&#8217;s website: “Steal our stories”. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Déme dos: reportaje de portada podría haber costado 400.000 dólares&#160;&#124;&#160;Diego Graglia, journalist</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-173307</link>
		<dc:creator>Déme dos: reportaje de portada podría haber costado 400.000 dólares&#160;&#124;&#160;Diego Graglia, journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why There Can Be No Business Model for Slow News &#171; @loisbeckett &#62; 140</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-166608</link>
		<dc:creator>Why There Can Be No Business Model for Slow News &#171; @loisbeckett &#62; 140</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Estimated cost, according to editors at ProPublica/NYT: $200,000. And that&#8217;s a lowball, down from an original estimated cost of $400,000. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Estimated cost, according to editors at ProPublica/NYT: $200,000. And that&#8217;s a lowball, down from an original estimated cost of $400,000. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 400.000 dollari per un Pulitzer &#124; LSDI</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-104152</link>
		<dc:creator>400.000 dollari per un Pulitzer &#124; LSDI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Secondo il Nieman Journalism Lab, si tratta di « una nuova economia della produzione di informazione ».  L’ inchiesta premiata – che ha raccontato alcuni casi di eutanasia avvenuti negli ospedali di New Orleans dopo il disastro dell’ uragano Katrina –, che ha richiesto diversi mesi di lavoro ed è stata pubblicata da 60 diverse testate, è costata la bazzecola di 400.000 dollari (300.000 euro) una somma che nessun media tradizionale od online avrebbe i mezzi per investire in un solo progetto, come ha fatto ProPublica. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Secondo il Nieman Journalism Lab, si tratta di « una nuova economia della produzione di informazione ».  L’ inchiesta premiata – che ha raccontato alcuni casi di eutanasia avvenuti negli ospedali di New Orleans dopo il disastro dell’ uragano Katrina –, che ha richiesto diversi mesi di lavoro ed è stata pubblicata da 60 diverse testate, è costata la bazzecola di 400.000 dollari (300.000 euro) una somma che nessun media tradizionale od online avrebbe i mezzi per investire in un solo progetto, come ha fatto ProPublica. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Could a blog win a Pulitzer? &#124; John Tedesco</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-100932</link>
		<dc:creator>Could a blog win a Pulitzer? &#124; John Tedesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It cost at least $100,000 for Sheri Fink&#8217;s prize-winning story about the life-and-death decisions at an isolated hospital in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Zachary M. Seward at Nieman Journalism Lab got the cost breakdown: Fink was paid $33,000 plus $10,000 in expenses for her Kaiser fellowship, according to Steve Engelberg, her editor at ProPublica, where she’s been for 14 months. Engelberg, who was kind enough to go through these figures with me, said, “Fourteen months of salary plus benefits for us easily gets you north of 100 plus, 100, 150 or something.” He threw in another $20,000 to $30,000 for travel expenses, in addition to three months of editing and lawyering at ProPublica and the Times, which also spent $25,000 to $30,000 on photographs, he said. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It cost at least $100,000 for Sheri Fink&#8217;s prize-winning story about the life-and-death decisions at an isolated hospital in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Zachary M. Seward at Nieman Journalism Lab got the cost breakdown: Fink was paid $33,000 plus $10,000 in expenses for her Kaiser fellowship, according to Steve Engelberg, her editor at ProPublica, where she’s been for 14 months. Engelberg, who was kind enough to go through these figures with me, said, “Fourteen months of salary plus benefits for us easily gets you north of 100 plus, 100, 150 or something.” He threw in another $20,000 to $30,000 for travel expenses, in addition to three months of editing and lawyering at ProPublica and the Times, which also spent $25,000 to $30,000 on photographs, he said. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-04-13 &#124; joel.cat</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-100135</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2010-04-13 &#124; joel.cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Al NYT le habría costado 400.000$ hacer el reportaje de la web ProPublica que ha ganado un Pulitzer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Al NYT le habría costado 400.000$ hacer el reportaje de la web ProPublica que ha ganado un Pulitzer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ProPublica&#8217;s expensive story and deserved Pulitzer » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProPublica&#8217;s expensive story and deserved Pulitzer » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote about Fink&#8217;s terrific piece twice last fall. First, Zach Seward noted the huge cost of producing the story — $400,000 by one estimate — and the unusual cost-sharing between ProPublica, the Kaiser [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrote about Fink&#8217;s terrific piece twice last fall. First, Zach Seward noted the huge cost of producing the story — $400,000 by one estimate — and the unusual cost-sharing between ProPublica, the Kaiser [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Interview de Joshua Benton (1/3): Financer l’enquête dans les médias traditionnels &#171; Numerico</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-96449</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview de Joshua Benton (1/3): Financer l’enquête dans les médias traditionnels &#171; Numerico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Le bureau de Bagdad du New York Times lui coûte 3 millions de dollars par an. Et celui du Washington Post, un million de dollars par an. C’est le chiffre qu’ils estimaient, en incluant les salaires des journalistes. Lire l’article du Nieman Lab sur ce sujet ici. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *Le bureau de Bagdad du New York Times lui coûte 3 millions de dollars par an. Et celui du Washington Post, un million de dollars par an. C’est le chiffre qu’ils estimaient, en incluant les salaires des journalistes. Lire l’article du Nieman Lab sur ce sujet ici. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cost of a New York Times Magazine cover story &#171; Explorations in New Media from the Schieffer School of Journalism at TCU</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49882</link>
		<dc:creator>Cost of a New York Times Magazine cover story &#171; Explorations in New Media from the Schieffer School of Journalism at TCU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the publication’s latest cover story, funded partly through nonprofit ProPublica (coverage here from Harvard’s Nieman Journalism [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the publication’s latest cover story, funded partly through nonprofit ProPublica (coverage here from Harvard’s Nieman Journalism [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke Geery &#124; Extreme Journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke Geery &#124; Extreme Journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is run like a media business, meaning, they are reliant on advertising. Believe it or not, it still costs money to produce content and if (college) educated and informed people aren&#8217;t doing it, it&#8217;s not going to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is run like a media business, meaning, they are reliant on advertising. Believe it or not, it still costs money to produce content and if (college) educated and informed people aren&#8217;t doing it, it&#8217;s not going to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Investigators Go Where Journalism Won&#8217;t</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-35966</link>
		<dc:creator>Investigators Go Where Journalism Won&#8217;t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pointed out about non-profit journalism is cost. Non-profit groups like Pro-Publica have financed expensive investigations that have graced the front pages of the New York Times Magazine, which could not afford the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pointed out about non-profit journalism is cost. Non-profit groups like Pro-Publica have financed expensive investigations that have graced the front pages of the New York Times Magazine, which could not afford the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Homicide? &#171; Meanderings</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-34854</link>
		<dc:creator>Homicide? &#171; Meanderings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] during Hurricane Katrina has gotten a lot of attention, mostly for the fact that it cost $400,000 (or so) to produce. And, hey, that&#8217;s a lot of money! Maybe people will understand why they should [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] during Hurricane Katrina has gotten a lot of attention, mostly for the fact that it cost $400,000 (or so) to produce. And, hey, that&#8217;s a lot of money! Maybe people will understand why they should [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weiseltier on NYT Mag&#8217;s ideology &#124; Obama Biden White House</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-33452</link>
		<dc:creator>Weiseltier on NYT Mag&#8217;s ideology &#124; Obama Biden White House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back on Katrina, the result of deep investigation by the magazine and ProPublica, at an estimated cost of $400,000.    And when I spoke with Marzorati in June, he also talked about how the magazine has increased [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back on Katrina, the result of deep investigation by the magazine and ProPublica, at an estimated cost of $400,000.    And when I spoke with Marzorati in June, he also talked about how the magazine has increased [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weiseltier on NYT Mag&#8217;s ideology</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-33444</link>
		<dc:creator>Weiseltier on NYT Mag&#8217;s ideology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Although Wielseltier makes a strong argument against being consumed by Manhattan&#8217;s trivialities, it&#8217;s not as if the magazine only focuses on real estate porn and celebrity chefs. Indeed, just a take nearly 13,000-word cover story a few weeks back on Katrina, the result of deep investigation by the magazine and ProPublica, at an estimated cost of $400,000.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Although Wielseltier makes a strong argument against being consumed by Manhattan&#8217;s trivialities, it&#8217;s not as if the magazine only focuses on real estate porn and celebrity chefs. Indeed, just a take nearly 13,000-word cover story a few weeks back on Katrina, the result of deep investigation by the magazine and ProPublica, at an estimated cost of $400,000.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa J.C. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Periodismo, sin mirar la factura</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-33024</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa J.C. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Periodismo, sin mirar la factura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] poco celebraba que el NYT hiciera periodismo sin mirar la factura. Me siento orgullosa cuando en &#8220;mi casa&#8221; se hacen cosas como esta o los Cuadernos de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poco celebraba que el NYT hiciera periodismo sin mirar la factura. Me siento orgullosa cuando en &#8220;mi casa&#8221; se hacen cosas como esta o los Cuadernos de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Déme dos: reportaje de portada podría haber costado 400.000 dólares &#171; The Daily DG</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-32868</link>
		<dc:creator>Déme dos: reportaje de portada podría haber costado 400.000 dólares &#171; The Daily DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Déme dos: reportaje de portada costó 400.000 dólares &#171; The Daily DG</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-32867</link>
		<dc:creator>Déme dos: reportaje de portada costó 400.000 dólares &#171; The Daily DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] organizaciones invirtieron en hacer esta nota. Igual, Zachary M. Seward de Nieman Journalism Lab averiguó que el precio final anduvo por encima de los 240.000 dólares&#8230; cifra que sigue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Watchdog blog roundup for 9-7-09 &#124; John Tedesco</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-32417</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchdog blog roundup for 9-7-09 &#124; John Tedesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nieman Journalism Lab: How much money did it cost for a 13,000-word article investigating patient deaths at a New Orleans hospital during Katrina? Answer: A lot. Try six figures. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Henry Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Mireles:
Interesting comments re video and audio.  But there are lots of busy people (myself among them) who don&#039;t have time for audio or video stories because of their linear nature. It&#039;s much more efficient for me to read.  If I have to sit and watch an audio story unfold, inevitably the phone rings, I get a beep announcing an important email, or the dog throws up and must be dealt with. Sometime (for me often) text beats other forms. And also, it&#039;s possible to produce a much more refined and polished story in print. Even the best video and audio pieces lack subtlety and depth.
Best
Henry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Mireles:<br />
Interesting comments re video and audio.  But there are lots of busy people (myself among them) who don&#8217;t have time for audio or video stories because of their linear nature. It&#8217;s much more efficient for me to read.  If I have to sit and watch an audio story unfold, inevitably the phone rings, I get a beep announcing an important email, or the dog throws up and must be dealt with. Sometime (for me often) text beats other forms. And also, it&#8217;s possible to produce a much more refined and polished story in print. Even the best video and audio pieces lack subtlety and depth.<br />
Best<br />
Henry</p>
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		<title>By: David Eads</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Owen:  I think it&#039;s a little misleading to mention a general story on the issues in emergency care -- I can accept the premise that along with other pressing issues of the day, this story -- about emergency care during conditions of extreme crisis -- deserves a little air time.

That said, you are right -- the whole story at this point is what Pou is doing now.  Also, as your follow the money comment points out, now I&#039;m dying to know:  Who is backing Pou?  Why?  Is this backlash against the threat of devastating malpractice lawsuits?  What does her fancy PR firm see in her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Owen:  I think it&#8217;s a little misleading to mention a general story on the issues in emergency care &#8212; I can accept the premise that along with other pressing issues of the day, this story &#8212; about emergency care during conditions of extreme crisis &#8212; deserves a little air time.</p>
<p>That said, you are right &#8212; the whole story at this point is what Pou is doing now.  Also, as your follow the money comment points out, now I&#8217;m dying to know:  Who is backing Pou?  Why?  Is this backlash against the threat of devastating malpractice lawsuits?  What does her fancy PR firm see in her?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Follman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Follman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JoAnn Kawell- I couldn&#039;t agree more -- when I saw the $400K number I couldn&#039;t really believe it. This was a great piece of investigative journalism... but great investigative journalism, while never &quot;cheap,&quot; can be produced for far less. During my years as an editor at Salon, I worked on several investigative projects that made an impact as measured in public debate and/or government action/reaction. (As well as getting wide distribution and many page views.) The budgets for them were a very small fraction of $400K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JoAnn Kawell- I couldn&#8217;t agree more &#8212; when I saw the $400K number I couldn&#8217;t really believe it. This was a great piece of investigative journalism&#8230; but great investigative journalism, while never &#8220;cheap,&#8221; can be produced for far less. During my years as an editor at Salon, I worked on several investigative projects that made an impact as measured in public debate and/or government action/reaction. (As well as getting wide distribution and many page views.) The budgets for them were a very small fraction of $400K.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I see it as a failure. Complete and utter. I already could have surmised that this was a huge gray area awash in questionable decisions and complex issues. But really what I got out of the article was something that could have been achieved in a one hour interview. That Dr. Pou is making a great deal of headway in changing the law about responsibility under duress. And frankly, whatever the ethics of the situation that led to this might have been, what Dr. Pou is doing right now is not just right but worthy of a lot more attention that the main article.

If the piece had been a really punchy summary of what is being changed and why with a grabby headline then not only would more have been achieved in the way of public attention and policy change, but it would have cost a few thousand dollars at most.

And no, I am not missing the point here. This work is appropriate for a BOOK, where the details can be chewed more thoroughly. 

Want to investigate the moral dilemmas of emergency care? Audit all the major ER center records. Visit ten of them and observe and document. Interview ten lead ER doctors. Do it anonymously if you have to. And take the trouble to look at the money trail. Who pays what and who keeps what. That would have twenty times the impact for less cost (although as spelled out this would be an expensive article as well). 

Then do it again for non emergency care. This time really all you would have to do is follow the money, look at the flows and see who really gets what. 

Those two (series of) articles would have the potential to inform and impact the full national healthcare reform debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I see it as a failure. Complete and utter. I already could have surmised that this was a huge gray area awash in questionable decisions and complex issues. But really what I got out of the article was something that could have been achieved in a one hour interview. That Dr. Pou is making a great deal of headway in changing the law about responsibility under duress. And frankly, whatever the ethics of the situation that led to this might have been, what Dr. Pou is doing right now is not just right but worthy of a lot more attention that the main article.</p>
<p>If the piece had been a really punchy summary of what is being changed and why with a grabby headline then not only would more have been achieved in the way of public attention and policy change, but it would have cost a few thousand dollars at most.</p>
<p>And no, I am not missing the point here. This work is appropriate for a BOOK, where the details can be chewed more thoroughly. </p>
<p>Want to investigate the moral dilemmas of emergency care? Audit all the major ER center records. Visit ten of them and observe and document. Interview ten lead ER doctors. Do it anonymously if you have to. And take the trouble to look at the money trail. Who pays what and who keeps what. That would have twenty times the impact for less cost (although as spelled out this would be an expensive article as well). </p>
<p>Then do it again for non emergency care. This time really all you would have to do is follow the money, look at the flows and see who really gets what. </p>
<p>Those two (series of) articles would have the potential to inform and impact the full national healthcare reform debate.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eads</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, Matt Mireles is right on about the ROI here, though I&#039;m not sure profitability is precisely the goal (I&#039;d say it&#039;s more like survive-ability) given the rapidly shifting conditions and the fact that at points, &quot;charities&quot; will probably be subsidizing some of this work.  

Assuming that all the reporting and lawyering has a somewhat fixed cost (and it sounds like the lawyers must have done pretty well on this piece), they still could have done far more with this piece, especially when judged by the standards of changing policy, perception, and discourse, which is also a quirk of the piece itself.

It seems to me that the article ends right where, in a way, it should be beginning.  You have a doctor who gave instruction and provided information on how to end the patients&#039; lives.  You have a doctor who helped carry that out.  You have a hellish situation in which they were working.  But the final piece of this story, which is mentioned at the beginning and the end but never fleshed out, is that Pou is now advocating for immunity and broad discretion to be allowed to medical professionals in crisis situations.  Pou has used her situation to frame the discourse and advance a particular argument about transparency and accountability of medical personnel during crisis situations.  I believe, though I have no way of knowing, that Pou acted in good faith and in what she considered the best interest of the patients stranded at the hospital.  But without a paper trail or proper documentation of what she ad her staff did do, we cannot assess either the criminality or the nobility of their actions.

Which makes me wonder:  Where is more of the source material?  Why was&#039;t ProPublica publishing more over the entire span of the investigation.  Surely they could have worked with the lawyers to write some stories, and instead of licensing a piece that spends almost its whole length on the material evidence, spent the past couple of years publishing stories establishing and complicating the material evidence, culminating in a piece that provides more analysis and insight into the broader issues, something with more of a chance to reframe the discourse and to argue for, or at least raise and define a debate, around what kinds of standards of transparency, documentation, and prioritization apply to doctors in these kinds of crisis situations.

I have no doubt that the fixed cost of this project may have been in the hundreds of thousands by necessity, but the additional cost of publishing that information online is very, very low, and the possibilities for a searching analysis, better discussion, and the potential for changing, reframing, and improving the public discourse would be much greater.

Perhaps the prior problem here is is that the culmination of the project would be an NYT mag story, instead of a public investigation that builds an audience of people with influence over the situation, or others like it.  How the hell does a single piece in the NYT mag and a few graphics that most people will forget in a few weeks really help to reframe the discussion?  Did anyone ask the about project&#039;s relationship to the power structure, and how best, strategically, to address those issues?

It&#039;s an amazing piece (one that made be seriously reanalyze this event, which I watched unfold closely), and a worthy experiment, but I think in terms of what is necessary and what is possible, the initial indication is that this piece fails, pretty hard, to provide a create, smart, and sustainable model for investigative journalism in the coming decades, and, depending on the outcome, may also fail as a piece of investigative journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, Matt Mireles is right on about the ROI here, though I&#8217;m not sure profitability is precisely the goal (I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s more like survive-ability) given the rapidly shifting conditions and the fact that at points, &#8220;charities&#8221; will probably be subsidizing some of this work.  </p>
<p>Assuming that all the reporting and lawyering has a somewhat fixed cost (and it sounds like the lawyers must have done pretty well on this piece), they still could have done far more with this piece, especially when judged by the standards of changing policy, perception, and discourse, which is also a quirk of the piece itself.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the article ends right where, in a way, it should be beginning.  You have a doctor who gave instruction and provided information on how to end the patients&#8217; lives.  You have a doctor who helped carry that out.  You have a hellish situation in which they were working.  But the final piece of this story, which is mentioned at the beginning and the end but never fleshed out, is that Pou is now advocating for immunity and broad discretion to be allowed to medical professionals in crisis situations.  Pou has used her situation to frame the discourse and advance a particular argument about transparency and accountability of medical personnel during crisis situations.  I believe, though I have no way of knowing, that Pou acted in good faith and in what she considered the best interest of the patients stranded at the hospital.  But without a paper trail or proper documentation of what she ad her staff did do, we cannot assess either the criminality or the nobility of their actions.</p>
<p>Which makes me wonder:  Where is more of the source material?  Why was&#8217;t ProPublica publishing more over the entire span of the investigation.  Surely they could have worked with the lawyers to write some stories, and instead of licensing a piece that spends almost its whole length on the material evidence, spent the past couple of years publishing stories establishing and complicating the material evidence, culminating in a piece that provides more analysis and insight into the broader issues, something with more of a chance to reframe the discourse and to argue for, or at least raise and define a debate, around what kinds of standards of transparency, documentation, and prioritization apply to doctors in these kinds of crisis situations.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that the fixed cost of this project may have been in the hundreds of thousands by necessity, but the additional cost of publishing that information online is very, very low, and the possibilities for a searching analysis, better discussion, and the potential for changing, reframing, and improving the public discourse would be much greater.</p>
<p>Perhaps the prior problem here is is that the culmination of the project would be an NYT mag story, instead of a public investigation that builds an audience of people with influence over the situation, or others like it.  How the hell does a single piece in the NYT mag and a few graphics that most people will forget in a few weeks really help to reframe the discussion?  Did anyone ask the about project&#8217;s relationship to the power structure, and how best, strategically, to address those issues?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an amazing piece (one that made be seriously reanalyze this event, which I watched unfold closely), and a worthy experiment, but I think in terms of what is necessary and what is possible, the initial indication is that this piece fails, pretty hard, to provide a create, smart, and sustainable model for investigative journalism in the coming decades, and, depending on the outcome, may also fail as a piece of investigative journalism.</p>
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		<dc:creator>meneame.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;El alto precio del buen periodismo...&lt;/strong&gt;

Una investigación de 13.000 palabras abre el especial de fin de semana del New York Times: es la de la actuación del hospital de Nueva Orleans cuando enfrentó el desastre provocado por el huracán Katrina. Una historia para impactar al público esta...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>El alto precio del buen periodismo&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Una investigación de 13.000 palabras abre el especial de fin de semana del New York Times: es la de la actuación del hospital de Nueva Orleans cuando enfrentó el desastre provocado por el huracán Katrina. Una historia para impactar al público esta&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Media Nation &#187; The future of investigative reporting?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Nation &#187; The future of investigative reporting?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to Zachary Seward of the Nieman Journalism Lab, the 13,000-word story may have cost as much as $400,000 (perhaps a bit of an exaggeration) to produce — a huge chunk for the Times, but in this case the paper spent nothing: a grant from the Kaiser Foundation paid for much of the reporting. It&#8217;s the sort of alternative funding model that may help to ensure the future of investigative journalism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to Zachary Seward of the Nieman Journalism Lab, the 13,000-word story may have cost as much as $400,000 (perhaps a bit of an exaggeration) to produce — a huge chunk for the Times, but in this case the paper spent nothing: a grant from the Kaiser Foundation paid for much of the reporting. It&#8217;s the sort of alternative funding model that may help to ensure the future of investigative journalism. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>The New York Times Magazine &#8217;s &#8220;$400,000&#8243; Hurricane Katrina Story: Expensive, Brilliant &#124; Defamer Australia</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] September 29th. Sheri Fink, the reporter, began working on the story in 2007, for four months, with her own money. ProPublica started picking up the tab, Fink stayed with the story full-time, and two years later, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] September 29th. Sheri Fink, the reporter, began working on the story in 2007, for four months, with her own money. ProPublica started picking up the tab, Fink stayed with the story full-time, and two years later, [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Short enough to be interesting, long enough to cover the subject &#8212; Transplanted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Lyons (a.k.a. Fake Steve Jobs) whining about having to write a hundred-word feature, and reading about the 13,000 word megastory on the Health Care Crisis that will probably only get read by people who are already acolytes for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan Lyons (a.k.a. Fake Steve Jobs) whining about having to write a hundred-word feature, and reading about the 13,000 word megastory on the Health Care Crisis that will probably only get read by people who are already acolytes for the [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/an-extremely-expensive-cover-story-with-a-new-way-of-footing-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-30336</link>
		<dc:creator>Medial Digital &#8211; Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0&#187; Linktipps Neu &#187; Linktipps zum Wochenstart (23)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] An extremely expensive cover story &#8211; with a new way of footing the bill [...]</description>
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