Comments on: Frank Daniels’ speeding ticket and the role of an unmeddling publisher http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/frank-daniels-speeding-ticket-and-the-role-of-an-unmeddling-publisher/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: What makes a nonprofit news org “legit”? Here’s one six-fold path » Nieman Journalism Lab http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/frank-daniels-speeding-ticket-and-the-role-of-an-unmeddling-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-129835 What makes a nonprofit news org “legit”? Here’s one six-fold path » Nieman Journalism Lab Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:02:26 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9281#comment-129835 [...] is compromised because it relies on “handouts” as its primary revenue source. And here is my rebuttal.) So I focused on the relationships between publishing entity and newsroom, and [...] [...] is compromised because it relies on “handouts” as its primary revenue source. And here is my rebuttal.) So I focused on the relationships between publishing entity and newsroom, and [...]

]]> By: Jim Barnett to the Rescue « Insomniactive http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/frank-daniels-speeding-ticket-and-the-role-of-an-unmeddling-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-39644 Jim Barnett to the Rescue « Insomniactive Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:30:55 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9281#comment-39644 [...] I was heartened to read Jim Barnett’s response to Shafer’s post on the Nieman J-Lab blog.  Sure, Jim pays me a nice compliment, something I [...] [...] I was heartened to read Jim Barnett’s response to Shafer’s post on the Nieman J-Lab blog.  Sure, Jim pays me a nice compliment, something I [...]

]]> By: Martin Langeveld http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/frank-daniels-speeding-ticket-and-the-role-of-an-unmeddling-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-39564 Martin Langeveld Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:44:57 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9281#comment-39564 In an early plan for Texas Tribune that John Thornton shared with me, he made the interesting observation that when newspapers were essentially monopolies (say from 1900 to 1960 or so), newsrooms were to some extent charitable endeavors on the part of publishers. They spent more on them than they really had to, they took pride in competing in terms of quality and winning prestigious prizes and recognition. So now that it's possible to have a news enterprise consisting of not much more than a newsroom, a new generation of publisher-philanthropists is jumping into the game. The barriers to entry in launching an online news operation are low, compared to the old cost of entering a newspaper market, so we will have both those who "get it" and those who buy themselves a mouthpiece without regard for journalistic integrity. In an early plan for Texas Tribune that John Thornton shared with me, he made the interesting observation that when newspapers were essentially monopolies (say from 1900 to 1960 or so), newsrooms were to some extent charitable endeavors on the part of publishers. They spent more on them than they really had to, they took pride in competing in terms of quality and winning prestigious prizes and recognition. So now that it’s possible to have a news enterprise consisting of not much more than a newsroom, a new generation of publisher-philanthropists is jumping into the game.

The barriers to entry in launching an online news operation are low, compared to the old cost of entering a newspaper market, so we will have both those who “get it” and those who buy themselves a mouthpiece without regard for journalistic integrity.

]]> By: Jack Shafer http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/frank-daniels-speeding-ticket-and-the-role-of-an-unmeddling-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-39367 Jack Shafer Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:12:47 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9281#comment-39367 Barnett writes, "Shafer’s rule of thumb seems to be: If it doesn’t sell ads, it doesn’t merit publishing." Can he do me the service of showing me where I expressed that rule of thumb? --Jack Shafer Barnett writes, “Shafer’s rule of thumb seems to be: If it doesn’t sell ads, it doesn’t merit publishing.”

Can he do me the service of showing me where I expressed that rule of thumb?

–Jack Shafer

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