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		<description>[...] or interested in news. The reality of it is people expect news to find them. In a recent post at Harvard&#8217;s Neiman Lab, Gina M. Chen writes: [T]he news organizations — whether they be traditional newspapers or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dan bloom</title>
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		<description>Hi Gina,
I understand your point better now, thanks for the clarification, and ....you&#039;re right. I see now. I guess because I am a lifelong reporter, newspaper reader, since my teen days in Springfield Mass to my days now in Taiwan, I search out the news I want to find and want to read, because I am an intellectual who does things for himself, but you are right, most kids today want and LIKE the news coming to them, it&#039;s okay, that&#039;s the new value system. It sucks, but it&#039;s reality....SIGH
 
danny, 60 going on 100
 
BY the way, Gina, my idea that we might need a new word for reading on screens compared to reading on paper surface, can you interview me one day about this? I am the only person in the world right now going in this direction, calling for a new word for &quot;reading&quot; when we read on a screen,,,it is NOT reading, it is something new, i don&#039;t know the word yet, but a new word will come soon......see my blog here
 
http://zippy1300.blogspot.com
 
As one newsperson to another, THIS IS IMPORTANT... Gina, can you get back to me on this pro or con.?  
 
DANNY
Tufts 1971</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gina,<br />
I understand your point better now, thanks for the clarification, and &#8230;.you&#8217;re right. I see now. I guess because I am a lifelong reporter, newspaper reader, since my teen days in Springfield Mass to my days now in Taiwan, I search out the news I want to find and want to read, because I am an intellectual who does things for himself, but you are right, most kids today want and LIKE the news coming to them, it&#8217;s okay, that&#8217;s the new value system. It sucks, but it&#8217;s reality&#8230;.SIGH</p>
<p>danny, 60 going on 100</p>
<p>BY the way, Gina, my idea that we might need a new word for reading on screens compared to reading on paper surface, can you interview me one day about this? I am the only person in the world right now going in this direction, calling for a new word for &#8220;reading&#8221; when we read on a screen,,,it is NOT reading, it is something new, i don&#8217;t know the word yet, but a new word will come soon&#8230;&#8230;see my blog here</p>
<p><a href="http://zippy1300.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://zippy1300.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>As one newsperson to another, THIS IS IMPORTANT&#8230; Gina, can you get back to me on this pro or con.?  </p>
<p>DANNY<br />
Tufts 1971</p>
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		<title>By: You Get The . Info &#187; More People Realizing That The News Finds Them&#8230; Not The Other Way Around &#8211; 1769th Edition</title>
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		<description>[...] increasingly rare. Instead, the more common stories are the ones like Gina Chen explains, where news found her on Twitter. She didn&#8217;t go looking for the particular story about the magazine Gourmet closing &#8212; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Young who is 
Social News Editor at the Huffington Post
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&quot;If News is That Important, It Will Find Me.&quot;


There&#039;s one really powerful idea shaping the future of news. It&#039;s powerful, sure, and has wide-ranging implications for how citizens inform themselves about the world around them. Powerful and yet perfectly simple.

&quot;If news is that important, it will find me.&quot;

The reporter responsible for surfacing this gem is Brian Stelter, whom we&#039;ve written about before at the Huffington Post. While in college, he wrote the hit blog TVNewser before the New York Times hired him as a media reporter.

Stelter deserves credit for picking up in March 2008  on the unassuming thought -- shared by a researcher conducting a focus group that included one surprisingly wise college student.

But how could it be that news will find us? Isn&#039;t that just lazy -- the stuff an MTV-obsessed college student might say? Doesn&#039;t it take a supremely self-important culture of distraction and abbreviation to wish away civic responsibilities in favor of solipsistic consumption? I mean, how presumptuous?!

It takes work to read the newspaper, doesn&#039;t it? Logging on and visiting websites works basically the same way. You have to seek out information around you. The newspaper or its website has the information. So you have to go to the information, asking to be informed. That is the news.

But one important fact about the news media landscape is different. It&#039;s a game-changer, as they say. One account (PDF) of professor W. Russell Neuman shows just how much media there is in the world. Not all of it&#039;s news, of course. We don&#039;t know how much exactly, but we do know that there&#039;s more.

And there&#039;s way more media in general. On top of that, it&#039;s increasingly difficult to distinguish between news media or pure entertainment (hello Jon Stewart!).

From 1960 to 2005, the amount of media at our disposal skyrocketed. Even if we take into consideration the fact--maybe good, maybe bad, but certainly true--that Americans consumed almost twice as much media in 2005 as they did in 1960, the amount of media is astonishing.

In 1960, if someone had a minute of attention to give to consuming media, there were 98 one-minute alternatives available. In other words, as Neuman and his co-authors Yong Jin Park and Elliot Panek write, &quot;the ratio of supply to demand in 1960...is 98.&quot; And &quot;that represents the fundamental metric of choice.&quot; Thus, &quot;It is a human scale choice.&quot;

But the present-day environment is different -- like night and day. Now, &quot;there are over 20,000 minutes of mediated content available for every minute to be consumed.&quot; In fact, &quot;the ratio is 20,943.&quot; Of course, &quot;that is not a human-scale cognitive challenge.&quot;

And so, the authors write, &quot;humans will inevitably turn to the increasingly intelligent digital technologies that created the abundance in the first place for help in sorting it out.&quot; That is the challenge for a new generation of media consumers.

We cannot sift through mountains of media options the same way we remembered which radio station played our favorite tunes or which television station broadcast on which channel. In fact, we are going to have to rely on one another to discover, filter, and share -- with ingenious technologies helping us out.

But the news doesn&#039;t have to come to us only through our friends and family -- or anyone in particular. It will take all kinds of routes to us -- through one social network, onto to another, and into a blog we read for reasons totally unrelated to the news.

Children of recent decades know this deep down. Most of them do, anyhow. It&#039;s natural, now, that news and information follows a roundabout path, circling and swooping around us, in constant motion. Everywhere&#039;s a watercooler. We feel this. Not only us youngsters, of course, but we have our own set of experiences, unique to us because this is all we&#039;ve ever known.

That&#039;s why it took a college student in a focus group and a young reporter to bring it to a newspaper. And that&#039;s why it&#039;s a shame that the Newseum isn&#039;t opening itself up to these simple insights from digital natives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Young who is<br />
Social News Editor at the Huffington Post<br />
Posted</p>
<p>&#8220;If News is That Important, It Will Find Me.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one really powerful idea shaping the future of news. It&#8217;s powerful, sure, and has wide-ranging implications for how citizens inform themselves about the world around them. Powerful and yet perfectly simple.</p>
<p>&#8220;If news is that important, it will find me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reporter responsible for surfacing this gem is Brian Stelter, whom we&#8217;ve written about before at the Huffington Post. While in college, he wrote the hit blog TVNewser before the New York Times hired him as a media reporter.</p>
<p>Stelter deserves credit for picking up in March 2008  on the unassuming thought &#8212; shared by a researcher conducting a focus group that included one surprisingly wise college student.</p>
<p>But how could it be that news will find us? Isn&#8217;t that just lazy &#8212; the stuff an MTV-obsessed college student might say? Doesn&#8217;t it take a supremely self-important culture of distraction and abbreviation to wish away civic responsibilities in favor of solipsistic consumption? I mean, how presumptuous?!</p>
<p>It takes work to read the newspaper, doesn&#8217;t it? Logging on and visiting websites works basically the same way. You have to seek out information around you. The newspaper or its website has the information. So you have to go to the information, asking to be informed. That is the news.</p>
<p>But one important fact about the news media landscape is different. It&#8217;s a game-changer, as they say. One account (PDF) of professor W. Russell Neuman shows just how much media there is in the world. Not all of it&#8217;s news, of course. We don&#8217;t know how much exactly, but we do know that there&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s way more media in general. On top of that, it&#8217;s increasingly difficult to distinguish between news media or pure entertainment (hello Jon Stewart!).</p>
<p>From 1960 to 2005, the amount of media at our disposal skyrocketed. Even if we take into consideration the fact&#8211;maybe good, maybe bad, but certainly true&#8211;that Americans consumed almost twice as much media in 2005 as they did in 1960, the amount of media is astonishing.</p>
<p>In 1960, if someone had a minute of attention to give to consuming media, there were 98 one-minute alternatives available. In other words, as Neuman and his co-authors Yong Jin Park and Elliot Panek write, &#8220;the ratio of supply to demand in 1960&#8230;is 98.&#8221; And &#8220;that represents the fundamental metric of choice.&#8221; Thus, &#8220;It is a human scale choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the present-day environment is different &#8212; like night and day. Now, &#8220;there are over 20,000 minutes of mediated content available for every minute to be consumed.&#8221; In fact, &#8220;the ratio is 20,943.&#8221; Of course, &#8220;that is not a human-scale cognitive challenge.&#8221;</p>
<p>And so, the authors write, &#8220;humans will inevitably turn to the increasingly intelligent digital technologies that created the abundance in the first place for help in sorting it out.&#8221; That is the challenge for a new generation of media consumers.</p>
<p>We cannot sift through mountains of media options the same way we remembered which radio station played our favorite tunes or which television station broadcast on which channel. In fact, we are going to have to rely on one another to discover, filter, and share &#8212; with ingenious technologies helping us out.</p>
<p>But the news doesn&#8217;t have to come to us only through our friends and family &#8212; or anyone in particular. It will take all kinds of routes to us &#8212; through one social network, onto to another, and into a blog we read for reasons totally unrelated to the news.</p>
<p>Children of recent decades know this deep down. Most of them do, anyhow. It&#8217;s natural, now, that news and information follows a roundabout path, circling and swooping around us, in constant motion. Everywhere&#8217;s a watercooler. We feel this. Not only us youngsters, of course, but we have our own set of experiences, unique to us because this is all we&#8217;ve ever known.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it took a college student in a focus group and a young reporter to bring it to a newspaper. And that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a shame that the Newseum isn&#8217;t opening itself up to these simple insights from digital natives.</p>
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		<title>By: More People Realizing That The News Finds Them&#8230; Not The Other Way Around &#124;</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina wrote: &quot;but why should my judgment be more valued than anyone else’s?&quot;

Gina: On an abstract level, no it shouldn&#039;t. But the world works on a transactional level, and there, I might value your judgment more than someone else&#039;s and be willing to pay, barter or otherwise reward you for it, especially if you are more curator than gatekeeper. It will likely be just one of many business models.

Your statement answered one way -- &quot;just because I am &#039;the press,&#039;&quot; -- is a reason we still see large chunks of the industry struggling.

Answered another way -- &quot;because I&#039;ve proved my value to you time and time again, and I will continue to try to prove that value to you&quot; -- is the key to success in the new-media world. (It&#039;s also dang hard work - lots harder in many ways than journalism has been.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina wrote: &#8220;but why should my judgment be more valued than anyone else’s?&#8221;</p>
<p>Gina: On an abstract level, no it shouldn&#8217;t. But the world works on a transactional level, and there, I might value your judgment more than someone else&#8217;s and be willing to pay, barter or otherwise reward you for it, especially if you are more curator than gatekeeper. It will likely be just one of many business models.</p>
<p>Your statement answered one way &#8212; &#8220;just because I am &#8216;the press,&#8217;&#8221; &#8212; is a reason we still see large chunks of the industry struggling.</p>
<p>Answered another way &#8212; &#8220;because I&#8217;ve proved my value to you time and time again, and I will continue to try to prove that value to you&#8221; &#8212; is the key to success in the new-media world. (It&#8217;s also dang hard work &#8211; lots harder in many ways than journalism has been.)</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Young blogged on this meme the other day on his HuffPost blog. Gina, good post. But i disagree. Forget the me me me world we live in. We must find the news. Not the news will find us. That is wrong, Stelter is wrong, the study was wrong. Real readers will find the news. If we wait for the news to find ME ME ME, the news we get will be celebrity driven shite. gina, this is ALL wrong. please email me and i will set you straight, and see my blog &quot;zippy1300&quot; for more of this. DANNY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Young blogged on this meme the other day on his HuffPost blog. Gina, good post. But i disagree. Forget the me me me world we live in. We must find the news. Not the news will find us. That is wrong, Stelter is wrong, the study was wrong. Real readers will find the news. If we wait for the news to find ME ME ME, the news we get will be celebrity driven shite. gina, this is ALL wrong. please email me and i will set you straight, and see my blog &#8220;zippy1300&#8243; for more of this. DANNY</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nan,

I agree with you. It is hard to get financial support for a news organization when the readers expect news to find them, the passive approach, as you call it.

But ... news organizations, I think, need to face the reality that that is how many readers see the news. Sure, it&#039;s easier to make money with an active, engaged audience seeking out your information. That&#039;s not what we have today.

Readers aren&#039;t going out to find the news -- they expect it to come to them in a specific, package tailored to meet their interests.

News organizations can either figure out a way to deliver that and survive or keep wringing their hands and wishing the audience were more active in seeking out their news. Thing is: Wishing doesn&#039;t usually work unless you&#039;re a princess in a Disney film.

-- Gina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nan,</p>
<p>I agree with you. It is hard to get financial support for a news organization when the readers expect news to find them, the passive approach, as you call it.</p>
<p>But &#8230; news organizations, I think, need to face the reality that that is how many readers see the news. Sure, it&#8217;s easier to make money with an active, engaged audience seeking out your information. That&#8217;s not what we have today.</p>
<p>Readers aren&#8217;t going out to find the news &#8212; they expect it to come to them in a specific, package tailored to meet their interests.</p>
<p>News organizations can either figure out a way to deliver that and survive or keep wringing their hands and wishing the audience were more active in seeking out their news. Thing is: Wishing doesn&#8217;t usually work unless you&#8217;re a princess in a Disney film.</p>
<p>&#8211; Gina</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary makes a great point about the passive voice - will find me - rather than &quot;will find&quot; news. 
how will this passive &quot;I&#039;ll see it when I see it&quot; approach ever get commercial support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary makes a great point about the passive voice &#8211; will find me &#8211; rather than &#8220;will find&#8221; news.<br />
how will this passive &#8220;I&#8217;ll see it when I see it&#8221; approach ever get commercial support?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Readers expect news to find them &#171; Blog Looppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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