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		<title>By: This Week in Review: What Twitter does to us, Google News gets more local, and making links routine &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: What Twitter does to us, Google News gets more local, and making links routine &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] contains news together in Google News and let readers sort it out. (Former Lab writer Zach Seward wrote about the problems with Google News&#8217; blog label back in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blogs vs Medios en Google News</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-276825</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs vs Medios en Google News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 14:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] El otro día con la modificación a Google News puse un gráfico que muestra como uno puede elegir más o menos blogs en su &#8220;mix de noticias&#8221;&#8230; hoy me llamó el año 2002 y me dijo ¿reabrimos el debate blogs vs. medios que estamos todos aburridos?. &#8220;La división de contenidos de acuerdo a esas líneas es como clasificar a los brownies en función de si se cuecen en ollas de aluminio o vidrio. No hay diferencia, y oculta lo que realmente quieres saber: si contienen chips de chocolate.&#8221; The strange case of Google News and its “(blog)” label [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] El otro día con la modificación a Google News puse un gráfico que muestra como uno puede elegir más o menos blogs en su &#8220;mix de noticias&#8221;&#8230; hoy me llamó el año 2002 y me dijo ¿reabrimos el debate blogs vs. medios que estamos todos aburridos?. &#8220;La división de contenidos de acuerdo a esas líneas es como clasificar a los brownies en función de si se cuecen en ollas de aluminio o vidrio. No hay diferencia, y oculta lo que realmente quieres saber: si contienen chips de chocolate.&#8221; The strange case of Google News and its “(blog)” label [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lesetipps f&#252;r den 19. Mai &#124; Netzpiloten.de - das Beste aus Blogs, Videos, Musik und Web 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-276558</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesetipps f&#252;r den 19. Mai &#124; Netzpiloten.de - das Beste aus Blogs, Videos, Musik und Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 07:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &amp; BLOGS The strange case of Google News and its &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label: Last month, Google News made a small and mysterious change to the way it displays some news [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &amp; BLOGS The strange case of Google News and its &ldquo;(blog)&rdquo; label: Last month, Google News made a small and mysterious change to the way it displays some news [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shhh! Don&#8217;t Tell Google News You&#8217;re a Blog!: Tech News and Analysis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-276370</link>
		<dc:creator>Shhh! Don&#8217;t Tell Google News You&#8217;re a Blog!: Tech News and Analysis &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journalism Lab at the time the original changes were made, arguing (persuasively, I think) it didn&#8217;t make much sense to draw a line between what was a blog and what wasn&#8217;t for news purposes, either from a technical standpoint [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journalism Lab at the time the original changes were made, arguing (persuasively, I think) it didn&#8217;t make much sense to draw a line between what was a blog and what wasn&#8217;t for news purposes, either from a technical standpoint [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Henk van Ess</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-276312</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk van Ess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was making Google News Report, check https://searchengineland.com/revealing-the-sources-of-google-news-11353 (down now) I noticed some surprises in the algorithm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was making Google News Report, check https://searchengineland.com/revealing-the-sources-of-google-news-11353 (down now) I noticed some surprises in the algorithm.</p>
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		<title>By: Google News embraces self-identification of content » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-49051</link>
		<dc:creator>Google News embraces self-identification of content » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google News began attaching a &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label to their content two months ago. Others, like me, complained the label was outdated and inconsistently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google News began attaching a &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label to their content two months ago. Others, like me, complained the label was outdated and inconsistently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen Konrath</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-49000</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen Konrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... why would Google want to classify news by platform? ...&quot;
Editors writting in blogs are cheap information sources, which will probably compete against traditional news sources in the future. Integrating blogs will allow Google to become a publisher themselves as long as these blogs were not interrelated. So there is enough reason for Google to work on classifying the sources and their relevancy. - No doubt Google will proceed ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; why would Google want to classify news by platform? &#8230;&#8221;<br />
Editors writting in blogs are cheap information sources, which will probably compete against traditional news sources in the future. Integrating blogs will allow Google to become a publisher themselves as long as these blogs were not interrelated. So there is enough reason for Google to work on classifying the sources and their relevancy. &#8211; No doubt Google will proceed &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wendell Dryden</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-48889</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendell Dryden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve abandoned trying to use Google&#039;s &quot;Search Blog&quot; tool to find blogs about certain items because it brings up all sorts of not-blogs, including MSM sites.  Their &quot;advanced search&quot; / &quot;search by date&quot; also frequently returns results outside the requested range.  Maybe this is about SEO stuff gaming Google, or maybe its about inherent weaknesses.  Either way, I wouldn&#039;t expect Google News to perform any better.

Most problematic, I think, would be for web-pages appear further down the list of search returns because Google&#039;s been trying to sort them based on type rather than keyword and content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve abandoned trying to use Google&#8217;s &#8220;Search Blog&#8221; tool to find blogs about certain items because it brings up all sorts of not-blogs, including MSM sites.  Their &#8220;advanced search&#8221; / &#8220;search by date&#8221; also frequently returns results outside the requested range.  Maybe this is about SEO stuff gaming Google, or maybe its about inherent weaknesses.  Either way, I wouldn&#8217;t expect Google News to perform any better.</p>
<p>Most problematic, I think, would be for web-pages appear further down the list of search returns because Google&#8217;s been trying to sort them based on type rather than keyword and content.</p>
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		<title>By: Google CEO Eric Schmidt envisions the news consumer of the future » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-48652</link>
		<dc:creator>Google CEO Eric Schmidt envisions the news consumer of the future » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News had recently begun attaching a &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label to some news sources — a move I criticized last month. Schmidt ended up bringing up bloggers&#8217; moms: Me: A very small question. Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] News had recently begun attaching a &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label to some news sources — a move I criticized last month. Schmidt ended up bringing up bloggers&#8217; moms: Me: A very small question. Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Most</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40945</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Most</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. But what is a &quot;blog&quot;?  

If the distinction that indicates a &quot;real news&quot; site is characterized by, as a commenter said, &quot;serious, not chatty news posts&quot;, then even a company as replete with advanced analysis as Google is seriously jumping the gun on what can be done with today&#039;s computational linguistics offerings -- to say nothing of scaling this computing to Google&#039;s purview!

If Google really is responding to user feedback in doing this -- and given their uncharacteristically half-assed approach at blog labeling here, I wouldn&#039;t be quick to dismiss this conclusion -- then what we observe with the (blog) labeling more reflects a societal confusion as to what information can be trusted as we continue down a path of shrinking traditional journalism and burgeoning informal blogging, with the lines between these items ever blurring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. But what is a &#8220;blog&#8221;?  </p>
<p>If the distinction that indicates a &#8220;real news&#8221; site is characterized by, as a commenter said, &#8220;serious, not chatty news posts&#8221;, then even a company as replete with advanced analysis as Google is seriously jumping the gun on what can be done with today&#8217;s computational linguistics offerings &#8212; to say nothing of scaling this computing to Google&#8217;s purview!</p>
<p>If Google really is responding to user feedback in doing this &#8212; and given their uncharacteristically half-assed approach at blog labeling here, I wouldn&#8217;t be quick to dismiss this conclusion &#8212; then what we observe with the (blog) labeling more reflects a societal confusion as to what information can be trusted as we continue down a path of shrinking traditional journalism and burgeoning informal blogging, with the lines between these items ever blurring.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that its a good idea. There is a substantive difference between the majority of blogs and newspapers: one goes to blogs for opinions, and newspapers for facts. Even if this is not really true, or at least not always true, it is the popular perception. A blogger can read a news article and redigest it for public consumption. But they don&#039;t produce the news, in most cases. They don&#039;t do investigative reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that its a good idea. There is a substantive difference between the majority of blogs and newspapers: one goes to blogs for opinions, and newspapers for facts. Even if this is not really true, or at least not always true, it is the popular perception. A blogger can read a news article and redigest it for public consumption. But they don&#8217;t produce the news, in most cases. They don&#8217;t do investigative reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: How to Take High Quality Stock Photos &#171; Godsugusjerseys</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40778</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Take High Quality Stock Photos &#171; Godsugusjerseys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Take High Quality Stock&#160;Photos By arthursalazar1953  The strange case of Google &lt;b&gt;News&lt;/b&gt; and its &#8220;(blog)&#8221; label &#187; Nieman... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cranberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re using WordPress, and they aren&#039;t labeling us. We publish in a specific niche, and we don&#039;t have any other feed, just the WordPress blog.

I think the distinction may be not so much the technology, but the writing style. We do serious, not chatty news posts where the writer is not front and center. On many newspaper sites, the blog sections are emulating normal blogs, where the writing is personal and opinionated.

By the way, the blog ID has been there from years back, although they may have extended it to major media blogs just recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re using WordPress, and they aren&#8217;t labeling us. We publish in a specific niche, and we don&#8217;t have any other feed, just the WordPress blog.</p>
<p>I think the distinction may be not so much the technology, but the writing style. We do serious, not chatty news posts where the writer is not front and center. On many newspaper sites, the blog sections are emulating normal blogs, where the writing is personal and opinionated.</p>
<p>By the way, the blog ID has been there from years back, although they may have extended it to major media blogs just recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary M. Seward</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40538</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary M. Seward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Daniel, doesn&#039;t it? I have no inside knowledge, but it&#039;s hard not to read this in the context of Google&#039;s negotiations with AP (&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091006/ts_alt_afp/usmediaindustrynewspapersap_20091006113440&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;such as they are&lt;/a&gt;) and their broader PR push with the news industry. —Zach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Daniel, doesn&#8217;t it? I have no inside knowledge, but it&#8217;s hard not to read this in the context of Google&#8217;s negotiations with AP (<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091006/ts_alt_afp/usmediaindustrynewspapersap_20091006113440" rel="nofollow">such as they are</a>) and their broader PR push with the news industry. —Zach</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bechtel</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40525</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Bechtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard from some readers that they feel a &quot;bait and switch&quot; when they click on a link that takes them to a blog. Apparently Google has as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard from some readers that they feel a &#8220;bait and switch&#8221; when they click on a link that takes them to a blog. Apparently Google has as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Time Is Not Found Again: Oct. 6, 2009 &#124; MOUTHPIECE Blog // A Chicago-Addled Sports Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40522</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost Time Is Not Found Again: Oct. 6, 2009 &#124; MOUTHPIECE Blog // A Chicago-Addled Sports Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] + Non-sports: New Vampire Weekend song: &#8220;Horchata.&#8221; {Pitchfork.} The strange case of Google News and its blog label. {Nieman Lab.} [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] + Non-sports: New Vampire Weekend song: &#8220;Horchata.&#8221; {Pitchfork.} The strange case of Google News and its blog label. {Nieman Lab.} [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bachhuber</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40511</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any possibility that this could be related to ongoing negotiations with the AP? It always seems like there&#039;s something else to the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any possibility that this could be related to ongoing negotiations with the AP? It always seems like there&#8217;s something else to the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Terenzio</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/comment-page-1/#comment-40467</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Terenzio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we&#039;ve shown up as a blog at various times. We are a newspaper site and we don&#039;t use blogging software ( for the articles labeled as blogs), so it does seem rather random.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we&#8217;ve shown up as a blog at various times. We are a newspaper site and we don&#8217;t use blogging software ( for the articles labeled as blogs), so it does seem rather random.</p>
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