Comments on: What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Internet under threat.. | Business, Technology and Me http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-272626 Internet under threat.. | Business, Technology and Me Mon, 25 Apr 2011 06:29:50 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-272626 [...] when Peter Schwartz, former CEO bridge worldwide, brought about how Associated Press (with the help of Bing) is going ahead with NOT to have there pages available for indexing to Google’s bot, I had my [...] [...] when Peter Schwartz, former CEO bridge worldwide, brought about how Associated Press (with the help of Bing) is going ahead with NOT to have there pages available for indexing to Google’s bot, I had my [...]

]]> By: Rupert Murdoch and Google | Fullrunner http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-229599 Rupert Murdoch and Google | Fullrunner Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:02:22 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-229599 [...] With characteristic understatement, Calacanis described his insight as “the biggest news of the year”. In fact, it would be deeply surprising if News Corporation wasn’t trying to reach a deal with Microsoft. Confronted with the imminent demise of its deal with Google, the Associated Press is already doing so. [...] [...] With characteristic understatement, Calacanis described his insight as “the biggest news of the year”. In fact, it would be deeply surprising if News Corporation wasn’t trying to reach a deal with Microsoft. Confronted with the imminent demise of its deal with Google, the Associated Press is already doing so. [...]

]]> By: The AP and Google reach a licensing renewal agreement — here’s what it might mean for their relationship » Nieman Journalism Lab http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-155168 The AP and Google reach a licensing renewal agreement — here’s what it might mean for their relationship » Nieman Journalism Lab Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:37:32 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-155168 [...] of 2009, CEO Tom Curley denied that the AP was in licensing-contract renegotiations with Google, saying, “We haven’t talked. We haven’t talked with them in any serious way.” Then, for [...] [...] of 2009, CEO Tom Curley denied that the AP was in licensing-contract renegotiations with Google, saying, “We haven’t talked. We haven’t talked with them in any serious way.” Then, for [...]

]]> By: Google Extends Peace Accord With Associated Press http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-155136 Google Extends Peace Accord With Associated Press Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:55:29 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-155136 [...] newswire. However, there are few details about the truce between the two companies, who have had a somewhat tense relationship ever since the newswire threatened to sue the search engine in 2007 for posting excerpts of its [...] [...] newswire. However, there are few details about the truce between the two companies, who have had a somewhat tense relationship ever since the newswire threatened to sue the search engine in 2007 for posting excerpts of its [...]

]]> By: Google & AP Extend Long-Term Content Deal http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-155107 Google & AP Extend Long-Term Content Deal Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:59:45 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-155107 [...] October 2009: What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo [...] [...] October 2009: What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo [...]

]]> By: This Week in Review: Google’s new features, what to do with the iPad, and Facebook’s rise as a news reader » Nieman Journalism Lab http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-74681 This Week in Review: Google’s new features, what to do with the iPad, and Facebook’s rise as a news reader » Nieman Journalism Lab Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:01:48 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-74681 [...] so. Search engine guru Danny Sullivan wonders what it might mean, given the AP and Google’s icy relations. Oh yeah, and Google demoed some ideas of what a Chrome OS tablet — read: iPad competitor — [...] [...] so. Search engine guru Danny Sullivan wonders what it might mean, given the AP and Google’s icy relations. Oh yeah, and Google demoed some ideas of what a Chrome OS tablet — read: iPad competitor — [...]

]]> By: Google Economist Explains Why You Won’t Pay For Online News « computer news http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-72666 Google Economist Explains Why You Won’t Pay For Online News « computer news Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:28:12 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-72666 [...] for the tension between some news agencies and Google over Google News, Varian painted a very rosy picture of the Google/newspaper interaction, noting [...] [...] for the tension between some news agencies and Google over Google News, Varian painted a very rosy picture of the Google/newspaper interaction, noting [...]

]]> By: Lost Remote | AP stories no longer appearing on Google News http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-69204 Lost Remote | AP stories no longer appearing on Google News Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:21:19 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-69204 [...] points us to a speech AP CEO Tom Curley made at a media summit back in October, which strongly hinted the AP was disappointed with the level [...] [...] points us to a speech AP CEO Tom Curley made at a media summit back in October, which strongly hinted the AP was disappointed with the level [...]

]]> By: L’information au cœur de la bataille entre Google et Microsoft - Media Trend http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-56799 L’information au cœur de la bataille entre Google et Microsoft - Media Trend Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:22:46 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-56799 [...] la conférence, Tom Curley, rapporte Zachary M. Seward, sur le site du NiemanJournalismLab, a poursuivi la discussion de manière plus [...] [...] la conférence, Tom Curley, rapporte Zachary M. Seward, sur le site du NiemanJournalismLab, a poursuivi la discussion de manière plus [...]

]]> By: Thinking Allowed » Blog Archive » The Great Newspaper Debate http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-53291 Thinking Allowed » Blog Archive » The Great Newspaper Debate Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:55:30 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-53291 [...] to do the same. If he can get enough to jump on board — and it sounds like Associated Press is halfway there already — the thinking is he could put pressure on Google to pay up as [...] [...] to do the same. If he can get enough to jump on board — and it sounds like Associated Press is halfway there already — the thinking is he could put pressure on Google to pay up as [...]

]]> By: Josh Cohen Of Google News On Paywalls, Partnerships & Working With Publishers http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-52691 Josh Cohen Of Google News On Paywalls, Partnerships & Working With Publishers Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:01:59 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-52691 [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo [...] [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo [...]

]]> By: Is Rupert Murdoch stupid like a fox? http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-52331 Is Rupert Murdoch stupid like a fox? Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:42:55 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-52331 [...] do the same. If he can get enough to jump on board — and it sounds like Associated Press is halfway there already — the thinking is he could put pressure on Google to pay up as well. Mike Butcher at [...] [...] do the same. If he can get enough to jump on board — and it sounds like Associated Press is halfway there already — the thinking is he could put pressure on Google to pay up as well. Mike Butcher at [...]

]]> By: The web as a contested landscape « Netcultures http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-46830 The web as a contested landscape « Netcultures Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:31:57 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-46830 [...] faculty to us here. Has anyone been following the story of Associated Press versus Google (1, 2)? There’s a really nice exposé on  ABC’s Background Briefing called Who Owns The [...] [...] faculty to us here. Has anyone been following the story of Associated Press versus Google (1, 2)? There’s a really nice exposé on  ABC’s Background Briefing called Who Owns The [...]

]]> By: Mike Pasquale http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-45314 Mike Pasquale Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:02:05 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-45314 Now Google has quite a bit of cash floating around and could easily assemble it's own news gathering operation quite handily. What would AP do if Google were to assemble such an organization then pull a "Walmart" by under charging for the aggregated content thereby pulling AP's membership base away from them and effectively putting them out of business? Mr. Curley is playing a dangerous game of cat-and-mouse and given Google's proven internet and business acumen and Microsoft's equally relevant missteps (ME, Zune, Vista, etc.) which team would you bet on to succeed -- a savvy Google news and business powerhouse or a brazen yet shaky AP/Microsoft news venture with as much (or more) potential for failure as it has for success? It's a wild world out there and Google has been on top for quite awhile now. My advice to AP would be to hold your well intentioned plans a little closer to the vest for now because Google is likely already planning to counter attack. Another potential issue for AP is it's "not for profit" status which may be called into question by federal regulators if their alliance with Microsoft proves to be as profitable as they hope it would be. Google would no doubt push that hot button with anti-trust regulators at a time of their liking (presumably as the competition between AP/Microsoft and Google starts to really heat up). All of this is naturally conjecture at this point but Google has proven to be a sturdy competitor in the past and would presumably take off the kid gloves if an all out news conglomerate battle were to erupt between themselves and any organization. Now Google has quite a bit of cash floating around and could easily assemble it’s own news gathering operation quite handily. What would AP do if Google were to assemble such an organization then pull a “Walmart” by under charging for the aggregated content thereby pulling AP’s membership base away from them and effectively putting them out of business? Mr. Curley is playing a dangerous game of cat-and-mouse and given Google’s proven internet and business acumen and Microsoft’s equally relevant missteps (ME, Zune, Vista, etc.) which team would you bet on to succeed — a savvy Google news and business powerhouse or a brazen yet shaky AP/Microsoft news venture with as much (or more) potential for failure as it has for success? It’s a wild world out there and Google has been on top for quite awhile now. My advice to AP would be to hold your well intentioned plans a little closer to the vest for now because Google is likely already planning to counter attack. Another potential issue for AP is it’s “not for profit” status which may be called into question by federal regulators if their alliance with Microsoft proves to be as profitable as they hope it would be. Google would no doubt push that hot button with anti-trust regulators at a time of their liking (presumably as the competition between AP/Microsoft and Google starts to really heat up). All of this is naturally conjecture at this point but Google has proven to be a sturdy competitor in the past and would presumably take off the kid gloves if an all out news conglomerate battle were to erupt between themselves and any organization.

]]> By: This week in media musings: Obama v. Fox News, and NPR’s social media tact | Mark Coddington http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-43978 This week in media musings: Obama v. Fox News, and NPR’s social media tact | Mark Coddington Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:06:07 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-43978 [...] relentless Zachary Seward, we get some clarification and much smarter stuff from Curley. (Short version/full [...] [...] relentless Zachary Seward, we get some clarification and much smarter stuff from Curley. (Short version/full [...]

]]> By: Dean Miller http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-43415 Dean Miller Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:07:39 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-43415 It's fascinating to note that the first remarks always come from the haters. ("blindness, stupidity" etc) Do they really think that Google is going to spend the money digging up news, verifying it and taking the risks that come with independence? Save your hot air. You're going to need it when there's no one with the resources and attention span to expose something as complex as the S.W.I.F.T. bank surveillance, the eastern european gulags...etc. Many want to say they can do news. Few want to pay the dues. People who cherish their freedom should be hoping against hope that AP will succeed. Any organization, like Google, that lives to lap up metrics will be severely handicapped in its ability to ignore the market. AP isn't perfect, but at least the culture at AP has more to do with public service than monetizing algorithmic foci... It’s fascinating to note that the first remarks always come from the haters. (“blindness, stupidity” etc)
Do they really think that Google is going to spend the money digging up news, verifying it and taking the risks that come with independence?
Save your hot air. You’re going to need it when there’s no one with the resources and attention span to expose something as complex as the S.W.I.F.T. bank surveillance, the eastern european gulags…etc.
Many want to say they can do news.
Few want to pay the dues.
People who cherish their freedom should be hoping against hope that AP will succeed.
Any organization, like Google, that lives to lap up metrics will be severely handicapped in its ability to ignore the market.
AP isn’t perfect, but at least the culture at AP has more to do with public service than monetizing algorithmic foci…

]]> By: Nieman Journalism Lab: AP’s Tom Curley on the ‘oversupply’ of news – full text and audio | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-42637 Nieman Journalism Lab: AP’s Tom Curley on the ‘oversupply’ of news – full text and audio | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:26:43 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-42637 [...] as Nieman Journalism Lab reported on Friday, Curley was ‘far more revealing’ when he spoke without a prepared text on October 6 at [...] [...] as Nieman Journalism Lab reported on Friday, Curley was ‘far more revealing’ when he spoke without a prepared text on October 6 at [...]

]]> By: AP’s Tom Curley on the “oversupply” of news and what he’s doing about it » Nieman Journalism Lab http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-42388 AP’s Tom Curley on the “oversupply” of news and what he’s doing about it » Nieman Journalism Lab Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:21 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-42388 [...] a prepared text on October 6 at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club in Hong Kong. I wrote about the big news from that talk on Friday but can now share the audio and [...] [...] a prepared text on October 6 at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club in Hong Kong. I wrote about the big news from that talk on Friday but can now share the audio and [...]

]]> By: Nick @ Brick Marketing http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-42095 Nick @ Brick Marketing Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:08:28 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-42095 I think we are all a little excited to see what Bing's plans are now to really pull in market share. I think we are all a little excited to see what Bing’s plans are now to really pull in market share.

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41945 Michael Martinez Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:25:58 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41945 Google DOES have a self-referring network. That is how they have inflated their page views over the page views that Microsoft and Yahoo! generate from search. The search industry today is, unfortunately, measured on the basis of those page views rather than on the basis of how much traffic the search engines actually send to other sites. I'm not saying the Associated Press and News Corp have the right idea in mind -- I will be the last person to pay a subscription for news -- but many of the criticisms he is reportedly making in the citations you provide are valid. Google DOES have a self-referring network. That is how they have inflated their page views over the page views that Microsoft and Yahoo! generate from search.

The search industry today is, unfortunately, measured on the basis of those page views rather than on the basis of how much traffic the search engines actually send to other sites.

I’m not saying the Associated Press and News Corp have the right idea in mind — I will be the last person to pay a subscription for news — but many of the criticisms he is reportedly making in the citations you provide are valid.

]]> By: Medial Digital – Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart (29) http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41853 Medial Digital – Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart (29) Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:10:27 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41853 [...] What the Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft and Yahoo [...] [...] What the Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft and Yahoo [...]

]]> By: Notables « Kempton – ideas Revolutionary http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41684 Notables « Kempton – ideas Revolutionary Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:26:35 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41684 [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo (Nieman Journalism Lab, Harvard [...] [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo (Nieman Journalism Lab, Harvard [...]

]]> By: Shyam Somanadh http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41567 Shyam Somanadh Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:32:06 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41567 Implicit in Curley's assertion is the self-conferred entitlement that AP and other agencies are the only ones who create worthwhile content. If he had looked around he would find that quite a bit of the 22 billion USD came to Google not from running ads on those stories, they come from all kinds of content. Does AP want Google to pay them for ads placed near captioned cat pictures too? This is practically turning in to a stick-'em-up by the AP, who have an enabler in Murdoch. If destination sites start doing what AP is asking them to do -- to send traffic for exclusives back to AP -- is preposterous. Why on earth would anyone do that? As Danny has pointed out, the scary part is that they believe in these fundamentally flawed ideas at the topmost level. A bit more of hysteria of the same manner, and they'd very soon start resembling cultists. If they are serious about being a destination site as a primary objective, then every subscriber of theirs will renegotiate with them or cut off their subscriptions. And it is not like being a successful destination site for news guarantees your financial well being. They'll just wind up in a pool of publications who are already struggling to do the same. Implicit in Curley’s assertion is the self-conferred entitlement that AP and other agencies are the only ones who create worthwhile content. If he had looked around he would find that quite a bit of the 22 billion USD came to Google not from running ads on those stories, they come from all kinds of content. Does AP want Google to pay them for ads placed near captioned cat pictures too? This is practically turning in to a stick-’em-up by the AP, who have an enabler in Murdoch.

If destination sites start doing what AP is asking them to do — to send traffic for exclusives back to AP — is preposterous. Why on earth would anyone do that? As Danny has pointed out, the scary part is that they believe in these fundamentally flawed ideas at the topmost level. A bit more of hysteria of the same manner, and they’d very soon start resembling cultists.

If they are serious about being a destination site as a primary objective, then every subscriber of theirs will renegotiate with them or cut off their subscriptions. And it is not like being a successful destination site for news guarantees your financial well being. They’ll just wind up in a pool of publications who are already struggling to do the same.

]]> By: News as business… online « JOUR3180 Online Journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41426 News as business… online « JOUR3180 Online Journalism Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:01:59 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41426 [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo (Nieman Journalism Lab) [...] [...] What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo (Nieman Journalism Lab) [...]

]]> By: AP’s Betting The Farm Microsoft Will Crush Google | Defamer Australia http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41419 AP’s Betting The Farm Microsoft Will Crush Google | Defamer Australia Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:38:29 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41419 [...] According to Harvard’s Nieman Journalism Lab, AP CEO Tim Curley (pictured) recently let slip at a Hong Kong gathering of journalists that the AP hasn’t even talked to Google as part of its complete overhaul of the way it syndicates content online. Why bother, when Microsoft is clearly so lethally good, online? “They know how to have a conversation,” for one, unlike a certain other tech giant, plus they gave AP this, just, killer demo: Microsoft this month has some new technology that it’s unveiling that will be much more visually dramatic than anything you’ve seen before. Multimedia in ways you haven’t thought about yet. We’ve seen it, we’ve seen the technology. [...] [...] According to Harvard’s Nieman Journalism Lab, AP CEO Tim Curley (pictured) recently let slip at a Hong Kong gathering of journalists that the AP hasn’t even talked to Google as part of its complete overhaul of the way it syndicates content online. Why bother, when Microsoft is clearly so lethally good, online? “They know how to have a conversation,” for one, unlike a certain other tech giant, plus they gave AP this, just, killer demo: Microsoft this month has some new technology that it’s unveiling that will be much more visually dramatic than anything you’ve seen before. Multimedia in ways you haven’t thought about yet. We’ve seen it, we’ve seen the technology. [...]

]]> By: Weekend news – Frieze, FIAC, etc… - Shanghai Eye http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41395 Weekend news – Frieze, FIAC, etc… - Shanghai Eye Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:53:48 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41395 [...] **** ***** Sean Kelly signs Tehching Hsieh **** **** **** **** ***** In not so art related news- AP in Hong Kong has a moan about news link aggregator types AP boss: “Bloggers are pests, and like all pests they must be eradicated, we are hiring a [...] [...] **** ***** Sean Kelly signs Tehching Hsieh **** **** **** **** ***** In not so art related news- AP in Hong Kong has a moan about news link aggregator types AP boss: “Bloggers are pests, and like all pests they must be eradicated, we are hiring a [...]

]]> By: The AP Tries a “Truthiness” Approach: “We’re Not Talking to Google” Means “We’re Talking to Google” | Peter Kafka | MediaMemo | AllThingsD http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41344 The AP Tries a “Truthiness” Approach: “We’re Not Talking to Google” Means “We’re Talking to Google” | Peter Kafka | MediaMemo | AllThingsD Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:41:17 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41344 [...] comments, recorded by an attendee at the Hong Kong meeting and transcribed by Zachary Seward at Nieman Journalism Lab: Someone asked Curley if Microsoft (MSFT) was willing to accept the AP’s demands. “They have [...] [...] comments, recorded by an attendee at the Hong Kong meeting and transcribed by Zachary Seward at Nieman Journalism Lab: Someone asked Curley if Microsoft (MSFT) was willing to accept the AP’s demands. “They have [...]

]]> By: Zachary M. Seward http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41336 Zachary M. Seward Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:00:49 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41336 Thanks for the insight, Danny, and I really liked your <a href="http://searchengineland.com/dissecting-the-ap-murdoch-speeches-against-those-internet-news-thieves-27507" rel="nofollow">deconstruction</a> of the Curley and Murdoch speeches today. It does seem like the AP has very little leverage with Google, so it will be fascinating to see if AP blinks or not. Also, glad to hear the self-referring loop is not some cosmic abyss or something. Your explanation meshes with what I've heard elsewhere. —Zach Thanks for the insight, Danny, and I really liked your deconstruction of the Curley and Murdoch speeches today. It does seem like the AP has very little leverage with Google, so it will be fascinating to see if AP blinks or not. Also, glad to hear the self-referring loop is not some cosmic abyss or something. Your explanation meshes with what I’ve heard elsewhere. —Zach

]]> By: Kevin Spence http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41335 Kevin Spence Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:00:48 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41335 If Google's coming newspaper subscription model is as successful as it has the potential to be, is the AP even needed anymore? If Google’s coming newspaper subscription model is as successful as it has the potential to be, is the AP even needed anymore?

]]> By: Dissecting The AP & Murdoch Speeches Against Those Internet News Thieves http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/what-the-associated-press-is-saying-to-google-microsoft-and-yahoo/comment-page-1/#comment-41333 Dissecting The AP & Murdoch Speeches Against Those Internet News Thieves Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:55:10 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=9622#comment-41333 [...] Also see What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo from Zachary Seward at the Nieman Journalism Lab. It’s a must read. In short, in post-speech [...] [...] Also see What The Associated Press is saying to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo from Zachary Seward at the Nieman Journalism Lab. It’s a must read. In short, in post-speech [...]

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