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	<title>Comments on: How two nonprofits saw the path to sustainability in 2009</title>
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		<title>By: MinnPost, The UpTake try Spot.us to raise funds for their coverage of the Minnesota gubernatorial race » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>MinnPost, The UpTake try Spot.us to raise funds for their coverage of the Minnesota gubernatorial race » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buoen sees the Spot.us effort as existing separately from MinnPost&#8217;s current, three-tiered revenue stream of subscription fees, advertising dollars, and foundation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Buoen sees the Spot.us effort as existing separately from MinnPost&#8217;s current, three-tiered revenue stream of subscription fees, advertising dollars, and foundation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Operators are standing by to take your call. &#171; The Hyperlocalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Operators are standing by to take your call. &#171; The Hyperlocalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have done well for themselves. In 2009, the MinnPost publication in Minneapolis brought in $458,000 in donations, while the syndicated AlterNet press service raised $300,000 from reader donations plus $600,000 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dylan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cas127, 

Back in the real world, show me a teacher who works her &quot;contractual hours.&quot;

My wife teaches high school, and she puts in a 12-14 hour day on weekdays, and 8-10 both Saturdays and Sundays. Most teachers I know work just as hard.

If you&#039;re going to pick on public sector workers, going after the hours of teachers isn&#039;t the way to go. That argument doesn&#039;t hold up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cas127, </p>
<p>Back in the real world, show me a teacher who works her &#8220;contractual hours.&#8221;</p>
<p>My wife teaches high school, and she puts in a 12-14 hour day on weekdays, and 8-10 both Saturdays and Sundays. Most teachers I know work just as hard.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to pick on public sector workers, going after the hours of teachers isn&#8217;t the way to go. That argument doesn&#8217;t hold up.</p>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
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		<dc:creator>cas127</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;Leading Quietly...by not spearheading ethical crusades&quot;

But isn&#039;t spearingheading (allegedly) ethical crusades *exactly* why all-too-many &quot;journalists&quot; practice &quot;journalism&quot; (as opposed to &quot;mere&quot; reportage).

We&#039;ll see, but the nonprofit movement strikes me as an attempt to re-insulate MSM &quot;journalists&quot; from the economic realities that *everyone else* has to deal with and, if successful, will simply recreate the assymetric attention paid to societal inequities (which led to the ongoing collapse of the MSM).

Examples of assymetric attention:

1) How many MSM stories have highlighted that public sector workers have vastly better pay, benefits, and retirement pensions then the public whose &quot;servants&quot; they are?

Contrast that number with the number of stories that have regurgitated the union myth that government workers are somehow &quot;underpaid&quot;.  (Especially in $ per hour worked - look at teachers whose contractual annual hours are about 65% of those in the free market).

How many MSM stories exclusively use words like &quot;slashed&quot;/&quot;hacked&quot;/&quot;gutted&quot; when simply referring to *any* reduction in public sector compensation (while the private economy that *funds it* is comatose or dying).

2) How many MSM stories have focused on the inequity of lower-paid taxpayers bailing out higher paid private sector workers in the auto unions?

Banks have been properly villified as &quot;banksters&quot; by the MSM - why haven&#039;t unions been properly vilified as political &quot;mobsters&quot;?  Selling the votes of its members in exchange for political favors.

In both cases, wealth is being politically redistributed from the poorer to the richer.

Where is the &quot;journalistic&quot; obsession with *these* longstanding, pervasive inequities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Leading Quietly&#8230;by not spearheading ethical crusades&#8221;</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t spearingheading (allegedly) ethical crusades *exactly* why all-too-many &#8220;journalists&#8221; practice &#8220;journalism&#8221; (as opposed to &#8220;mere&#8221; reportage).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see, but the nonprofit movement strikes me as an attempt to re-insulate MSM &#8220;journalists&#8221; from the economic realities that *everyone else* has to deal with and, if successful, will simply recreate the assymetric attention paid to societal inequities (which led to the ongoing collapse of the MSM).</p>
<p>Examples of assymetric attention:</p>
<p>1) How many MSM stories have highlighted that public sector workers have vastly better pay, benefits, and retirement pensions then the public whose &#8220;servants&#8221; they are?</p>
<p>Contrast that number with the number of stories that have regurgitated the union myth that government workers are somehow &#8220;underpaid&#8221;.  (Especially in $ per hour worked &#8211; look at teachers whose contractual annual hours are about 65% of those in the free market).</p>
<p>How many MSM stories exclusively use words like &#8220;slashed&#8221;/&#8221;hacked&#8221;/&#8221;gutted&#8221; when simply referring to *any* reduction in public sector compensation (while the private economy that *funds it* is comatose or dying).</p>
<p>2) How many MSM stories have focused on the inequity of lower-paid taxpayers bailing out higher paid private sector workers in the auto unions?</p>
<p>Banks have been properly villified as &#8220;banksters&#8221; by the MSM &#8211; why haven&#8217;t unions been properly vilified as political &#8220;mobsters&#8221;?  Selling the votes of its members in exchange for political favors.</p>
<p>In both cases, wealth is being politically redistributed from the poorer to the richer.</p>
<p>Where is the &#8220;journalistic&#8221; obsession with *these* longstanding, pervasive inequities?</p>
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