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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: &#8220;Experiment, experiment, experiment!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Advertisements in Newspapers – do they still hold their worth? &#124; PACO communications</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/googles-hal-varian-to-newspapers-at-ftc-confab-experiment-experiment-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-283266</link>
		<dc:creator>Advertisements in Newspapers – do they still hold their worth? &#124; PACO communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] attributed the downturn of newspapers’ ad revenue to the “real GDP-per-capita growth,” or the country’s standard of living.  According to the article, this explains “why newspaper business’ share of advertising [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Newspaper Industry Produces A Lot Of Scary Charts - Finding Out About</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Newspaper Industry Produces A Lot Of Scary Charts - Finding Out About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revenue stagnation happened in a context of real GDP-per-capita growth (see slide 6), which is why the newspaper business&#8217; share of overall advertising revenue in the United [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Slip and slide: Newspaper industry increases production of scary charts &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slip and slide: Newspaper industry increases production of scary charts &#187; Nieman Journalism Lab &#187; Pushing to the Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revenue stagnation happened in a context of real GDP-per-capita growth (see slide 6), which is why the newspaper business&#8217; share of overall advertising revenue in the United [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Some thoughts on what may be the next big thing on the web &#171; excapite</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/googles-hal-varian-to-newspapers-at-ftc-confab-experiment-experiment-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-129311</link>
		<dc:creator>Some thoughts on what may be the next big thing on the web &#171; excapite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fred Wilson took a quick look at the advertising industry data Martin Langeveld had prepared for Hal Varian &#8220;experiment, Experiment, Experiment&#8221; presentation to the newspapers and rapturously proclaimed  that the 5% growth in online advertising was &#8220;That is the most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Some thoughts on what may be the next big thing &#171; excapite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some thoughts on what may be the next big thing &#171; excapite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fred Wilson took a quick look at the advertising industry data Martin Langeveld had prepared for Hal Varian &#8220;experiment, Experiment, Experiment&#8221; presentation to the newspapers and rapturously proclaimed  that the 5% growth in online advertising was &#8220;That is the most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Google can teach the newspapers about innovation &#171; excapite</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/googles-hal-varian-to-newspapers-at-ftc-confab-experiment-experiment-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-128081</link>
		<dc:creator>What Google can teach the newspapers about innovation &#171; excapite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may recall Hal Varian&#8217;s call to the newspapers earlier this year to Experiment, Experiment, Experiment. It was a call to action that suggested the newspapers would be in better shape if they were more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Giornali: ma la carta è ancora regina &#124; LSDI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giornali: ma la carta è ancora regina &#124; LSDI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] la continua attenzione dedicata a quella conclusione (ancora il mese scorso lo aveva citato Hal Varian, economista capo di Google, nella sua audizione alla Federal Trade Commission), sono [...]</description>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Plagiarism and the link, location and context at SXSW, and advice for newspapers &#124; Mark Coddington</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Plagiarism and the link, location and context at SXSW, and advice for newspapers &#124; Mark Coddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Public Policy Blog, and the full text, slides and Martin Langeveld&#8217;s summary are here at the Lab. Sync &#8216;em up and you can pretty much recreate the presentation yourself.) After briefly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert H. Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert H. Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I can clarify the &quot;online as a percent of total revenue&quot; issue.

Whoever made Varian&#039;s slide on page 7 seems to have used the &quot;Print Total&quot; category from the NAA data in the place of the &quot;National&quot; category, almost doubling the estimate of total ad dollars.  This would account for the low estimate of online contribution.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NAA data&lt;/a&gt; clearly show that in 2008, &quot;Retail&quot; accounted for 50% of total ad spend, but the chart on page 7 shows it as about one-third.  I don&#039;t know what price deflator was used in this graph, but it&#039;s hard to reconcile the NAA&#039;s 2008 estimate of $38 billion in total ad spend with the $60+ billion implied on page 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I can clarify the &#8220;online as a percent of total revenue&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>Whoever made Varian&#8217;s slide on page 7 seems to have used the &#8220;Print Total&#8221; category from the NAA data in the place of the &#8220;National&#8221; category, almost doubling the estimate of total ad dollars.  This would account for the low estimate of online contribution.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx" rel="nofollow">NAA data</a> clearly show that in 2008, &#8220;Retail&#8221; accounted for 50% of total ad spend, but the chart on page 7 shows it as about one-third.  I don&#8217;t know what price deflator was used in this graph, but it&#8217;s hard to reconcile the NAA&#8217;s 2008 estimate of $38 billion in total ad spend with the $60+ billion implied on page 7.</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Plagiarism and the link, location and context at SXSW, and advice for newspapers » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Plagiarism and the link, location and context at SXSW, and advice for newspapers » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Public Policy Blog, and the full text, slides and Martin Langeveld&#8217;s summary are here at the Lab. Sync &#8216;em up and you can pretty much recreate the presentation yourself.) After briefly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard:
I can&#039;t speak for Hal here (I collaborated on a few of the slides but not on the talk). He mentions online as 5% of newspaper revenue in 2008. Actual was 8.2%; it passed 5% in 2006. So Hal is a few percent low.

As I noted in my post last week on newspaper company earnings, however, some of that online revenue is tied to print in the form of upsells. It&#039;s not pure, online-only advertising. In fact, if you take the NAA&#039;s reported 2008 online revenue of $3.109 billion and divide it by their reported page views of 40,821,100,000, you get a page CPM of $76.16 — certainly more than almost any newspaper actually gets. So - and I&#039;m not explaining Hal&#039;s numbers here - I do think that 8.2% is a number stretched by accounting maneuvers moving revenue from print to Web, rather than a pure internet revenue number.

I suspect this is true at McClatchy and NYT too. NYT reported that online revenue was down 10.9% in 2009 &quot;mainly due to classified revenue declines.&quot; I suspect that means print classified delines dragged down related online revenue. McClatchy, in its 10K, said more specifically that &quot;43.7% of the Company’s digital advertising revenues came from advertisements placed only online; that is, they were not tied to a joint print buy.&quot; In other words, more than half (56.3%) of the 16.2% of revenue McClatchy says is from digital revenue actually is tied to print.

I suspect it&#039;s the same story all over, and that if you could measure real online-only revenue across all newspapers, it would be closer to 4% than 8%. Anything that&#039;s &quot;tied to print&quot; is questionable: would the print ad have been sold without the upsell? Probably. Could the online portion have been sold by itself? Probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard:<br />
I can&#8217;t speak for Hal here (I collaborated on a few of the slides but not on the talk). He mentions online as 5% of newspaper revenue in 2008. Actual was 8.2%; it passed 5% in 2006. So Hal is a few percent low.</p>
<p>As I noted in my post last week on newspaper company earnings, however, some of that online revenue is tied to print in the form of upsells. It&#8217;s not pure, online-only advertising. In fact, if you take the NAA&#8217;s reported 2008 online revenue of $3.109 billion and divide it by their reported page views of 40,821,100,000, you get a page CPM of $76.16 — certainly more than almost any newspaper actually gets. So &#8211; and I&#8217;m not explaining Hal&#8217;s numbers here &#8211; I do think that 8.2% is a number stretched by accounting maneuvers moving revenue from print to Web, rather than a pure internet revenue number.</p>
<p>I suspect this is true at McClatchy and NYT too. NYT reported that online revenue was down 10.9% in 2009 &#8220;mainly due to classified revenue declines.&#8221; I suspect that means print classified delines dragged down related online revenue. McClatchy, in its 10K, said more specifically that &#8220;43.7% of the Company’s digital advertising revenues came from advertisements placed only online; that is, they were not tied to a joint print buy.&#8221; In other words, more than half (56.3%) of the 16.2% of revenue McClatchy says is from digital revenue actually is tied to print.</p>
<p>I suspect it&#8217;s the same story all over, and that if you could measure real online-only revenue across all newspapers, it would be closer to 4% than 8%. Anything that&#8217;s &#8220;tied to print&#8221; is questionable: would the print ad have been sold without the upsell? Probably. Could the online portion have been sold by itself? Probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Federal Trade Commission to Receive Aafd Total Quality &#8230; &#124; Franchising News</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Federal Trade Commission to Receive Aafd Total Quality &#8230; &#124; Franchising News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google&#039;s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: “Experiment &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the story on this one, Martin?

He says less than 5% of ad revenue is from online, and cites NAA as the source. But a quick glance at the NAA data here -- http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx -- show about 10%, and as you know many industry leaders in this area (NYT, McClatchy) are pushing 20%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the story on this one, Martin?</p>
<p>He says less than 5% of ad revenue is from online, and cites NAA as the source. But a quick glance at the NAA data here &#8212; <a href="http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.naa.org/TrendsandNumbers/Advertising-Expenditures.aspx</a> &#8212; show about 10%, and as you know many industry leaders in this area (NYT, McClatchy) are pushing 20%.</p>
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		<title>By: Google’s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: “Experiment, experiment, experiment!” &#124; A Second Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google’s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: “Experiment, experiment, experiment!” &#124; A Second Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here’s the slide deck from Varian’s presentation, entitled “Newspaper Economics, Online and Offline”:&#8230;more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Media Musings &#187; Google&#8217;s Future of Journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media Musings &#187; Google&#8217;s Future of Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the Federal Trade Commission on the future of journalism. You can view the slide show here or read Nieman Lab&#8217;s summary here.  (The early slides are heavy on numbers from a recent Pew report I blogged about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the Federal Trade Commission on the future of journalism. You can view the slide show here or read Nieman Lab&#8217;s summary here.  (The early slides are heavy on numbers from a recent Pew report I blogged about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Varian is Right: Newspapers Need to Engage &#124; AniChaos.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Varian is Right: Newspapers Need to Engage &#124; AniChaos.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking some time to read (or view). The slide deck is embedded below, and Martin Langeveld has a great overview at the Nieman Journalism Lab that also includes a transcript of Varian&#8217;s presentation. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Newspapers Never Made Much Money From News&#8221; : trinetizen&#39;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Newspapers Never Made Much Money From News&#8221; : trinetizen&#39;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LINKS: 1. Hal Varian presentation on Scribd 2.TechCrunch summary. 3. Martin Langeveld summary at Nieman Journalism Lab. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hal Varian is Right: Newspapers Need to Engage &#8211; GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Varian is Right: Newspapers Need to Engage &#8211; GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking some time to read (or view). The slide deck is embedded below, and Martin Langeveld has a great overview at the Nieman Journalism Lab that also includes a transcript of Varian&#8217;s presentation. The [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-03-10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google’s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: “Experiment, experiment, experiment!” » Niem... Kevin: This is a great summary of Google&#039;s economist-in-chief, Hal Varian&#039;s presentation on newspapers. There is so much good stuff packed in this presentation. I&#039;ll just highlight this one quote in terms of new devices for news consumption. Varian says: &quot;The iPad, Kindle and other tablets introduce a “completely different ergonomics for accessing the news…so what I believe they’ll see is a merger of the TV, magazine, radio, and newspaper experience. You’ll have a device which will access all of the different medias. Give you a deeper — potentially deeper involvement with the news…So I would like to see this — this area develop and we’re doing what we can to help that happen&quot; (tags: google newspapers journalism economics iPad mediaslate businessmodels) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google’s Hal Varian to newspapers at FTC confab: “Experiment, experiment, experiment!” » Niem&#8230; Kevin: This is a great summary of Google&#39;s economist-in-chief, Hal Varian&#39;s presentation on newspapers. There is so much good stuff packed in this presentation. I&#39;ll just highlight this one quote in terms of new devices for news consumption. Varian says: &quot;The iPad, Kindle and other tablets introduce a “completely different ergonomics for accessing the news…so what I believe they’ll see is a merger of the TV, magazine, radio, and newspaper experience. You’ll have a device which will access all of the different medias. Give you a deeper — potentially deeper involvement with the news…So I would like to see this — this area develop and we’re doing what we can to help that happen&quot; (tags: google newspapers journalism economics iPad mediaslate businessmodels) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google: Verlage müssen experimentieren! « Kulturkampf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google: Verlage müssen experimentieren! « Kulturkampf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wie dem Kindle oder dem iPad. Das Nieman Journalism Lab hat das komplette Transkript des Vortrags veröffentlicht.     Kategorien: Medienzukunft   Kommentieren   Empfehlen Social [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wie dem Kindle oder dem iPad. Das Nieman Journalism Lab hat das komplette Transkript des Vortrags veröffentlicht.     Kategorien: Medienzukunft   Kommentieren   Empfehlen Social [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Foremski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Foremski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting statistics...but if Hal Varian can&#039;t suggest anything more than &quot;Experiment, experiment...) then the newspapers are in big trouble. He should be able to see some solutions in those numbers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting statistics&#8230;but if Hal Varian can&#8217;t suggest anything more than &#8220;Experiment, experiment&#8230;) then the newspapers are in big trouble. He should be able to see some solutions in those numbers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Langeveld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: I think those numbers are flipped and should be: 17% subscriptions, 3 percent newsstand.

Howard: 12% promotion represents cost of sales. The breakdown came from an economics text and used different terminology than we&#039;re used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: I think those numbers are flipped and should be: 17% subscriptions, 3 percent newsstand.</p>
<p>Howard: 12% promotion represents cost of sales. The breakdown came from an economics text and used different terminology than we&#8217;re used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the first statistical slide says &quot;promotion&quot; amounts to 12% of revenues, I kinda tune out. Laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the first statistical slide says &#8220;promotion&#8221; amounts to 12% of revenues, I kinda tune out. Laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what world does a newspaper get 3% of its revenue from subscriptions and spend 12% on promotions? Not one that I&#039;ve ever worked in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what world does a newspaper get 3% of its revenue from subscriptions and spend 12% on promotions? Not one that I&#8217;ve ever worked in</p>
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		<title>By: THE GOOGLE ADVICE TO NEWSPAPERS: EXPERIMENT, EXPERIMENT, EXPERIMENT!</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE GOOGLE ADVICE TO NEWSPAPERS: EXPERIMENT, EXPERIMENT, EXPERIMENT!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Langeveld reports about the presentation made by  Google’s economist-in-chief, Hal Varian this morning at the Federal Trade [...]</description>
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