Comments on: Len Downie: For-profit news orgs won’t create enough journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A few words from our panelists « The Hyperlocalist http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-136980 A few words from our panelists « The Hyperlocalist Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:37:36 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-136980 [...] recently with Terry (whose real name I’ve obfuscated for privacy’s sake). Terry’s fighting the good fight, running a nonprofit investigative-news site in her state capital. But grants are tough to score [...] [...] recently with Terry (whose real name I’ve obfuscated for privacy’s sake). Terry’s fighting the good fight, running a nonprofit investigative-news site in her state capital. But grants are tough to score [...]

]]> By: Inside Voice: Our Future in Journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-107090 Inside Voice: Our Future in Journalism Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:55:58 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-107090 [...] me address that topic further by going back a few weeks to another Nieman article in which former Washington Post Executive Editor Len Downie said the for-profit model alone no [...] [...] me address that topic further by going back a few weeks to another Nieman article in which former Washington Post Executive Editor Len Downie said the for-profit model alone no [...]

]]> By: Non-Profit Is The Future, iPad Is Not « News News http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-96721 Non-Profit Is The Future, iPad Is Not « News News Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:11:58 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-96721 [...] the Washington Post, says journalism will thrive if its based on a non-profit model, discusses the Nieman Journalism Lab. (The video is a lecture he gave at Stanford University last year on the future of [...] [...] the Washington Post, says journalism will thrive if its based on a non-profit model, discusses the Nieman Journalism Lab. (The video is a lecture he gave at Stanford University last year on the future of [...]

]]> By: What Does the Future Hold for Newspapers? | AniChaos.com http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94920 What Does the Future Hold for Newspapers? | AniChaos.com Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:05:14 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94920 [...] filling in the gaps left by newspapers. And former Washington Post executive editor Len Downie suggests that non-profits can also help. Or do newspaper companies need to “burn the boats” and [...] [...] filling in the gaps left by newspapers. And former Washington Post executive editor Len Downie suggests that non-profits can also help. Or do newspaper companies need to “burn the boats” and [...]

]]> By: What Does the Future Hold for Newspapers? http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94887 What Does the Future Hold for Newspapers? Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:02:46 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94887 [...] filling in the gaps left by newspapers. And former Washington Post executive editor Len Downie suggests that non-profits can also help. Or do newspaper companies need to “burn the boats” and [...] [...] filling in the gaps left by newspapers. And former Washington Post executive editor Len Downie suggests that non-profits can also help. Or do newspaper companies need to “burn the boats” and [...]

]]> By: Journalism Today - Tracking Media Changes http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94464 Journalism Today - Tracking Media Changes Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:55:56 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94464 [...] Len Downie: For-profit news orgs won’t create enough journalism (Nieman Journalism Lab) [...] [...] Len Downie: For-profit news orgs won’t create enough journalism (Nieman Journalism Lab) [...]

]]> By: Jeremy Rudy http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94215 Jeremy Rudy Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:50:42 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94215 I'm a journalism student at ASU, so I have the opportunity to hear Mr. Downie speak frequently. While I have respect for his accomplishments, and agree that not-for-profit models will likely play a part in the future ecosystem of news, I'm disturbed by the message that Mr. Downie and other "respected industry leaders" are increasingly advocating -- that since there's no viable market solution NOW for journalism, there won't be in the future. His worldview is shaped by broken business models and obsolete technologies, and even though it might sound cliche, he lacks the intuitive understanding of technology that younger generations have. The journalism industry is transforming. That doesn't mean failing. It still provides a product/service that consumers demand. The problem with not-for-profit models is they frequently support the status-quo, as there's no incentive to find creative measures to self-finance. Innovation won't come from the wise advice of a long-time expert. It will come from the grassroots, probably from a different industry, and it will be fueled by the profit-motive. I’m a journalism student at ASU, so I have the opportunity to hear Mr. Downie speak frequently.

While I have respect for his accomplishments, and agree that not-for-profit models will likely play a part in the future ecosystem of news, I’m disturbed by the message that Mr. Downie and other “respected industry leaders” are increasingly advocating — that since there’s no viable market solution NOW for journalism, there won’t be in the future.

His worldview is shaped by broken business models and obsolete technologies, and even though it might sound cliche, he lacks the intuitive understanding of technology that younger generations have.

The journalism industry is transforming. That doesn’t mean failing. It still provides a product/service that consumers demand.

The problem with not-for-profit models is they frequently support the status-quo, as there’s no incentive to find creative measures to self-finance.

Innovation won’t come from the wise advice of a long-time expert. It will come from the grassroots, probably from a different industry, and it will be fueled by the profit-motive.

]]> By: Mark Johnstone http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94107 Mark Johnstone Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:24:44 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94107 The situation may be even worse in the UK. With both the creative funding industry slashing staff and funds this recession, and a media that just will not properly invest in diversity and effective training. Our company is an independent training consultancy and an alternative solution away from university education. We have looked at profit and not-for-profit. Both in this current recession are fraught. The situation may be even worse in the UK. With both the creative funding industry slashing staff and funds this recession, and a media that just will not properly invest in diversity and effective training.

Our company is an independent training consultancy and an alternative solution away from university education. We have looked at profit and not-for-profit. Both in this current recession are fraught.

]]> By: Nieman Journalism Lab: For-profit model can’t support investigative journalism, says Len Downie | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-94075 Nieman Journalism Lab: For-profit model can’t support investigative journalism, says Len Downie | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:16:13 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-94075 [...] Full post at this link… [...] [...] Full post at this link… [...]

]]> By: Ben Ilfeld http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/len-downie-for-profit-news-orgs-wont-create-enough-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-93613 Ben Ilfeld Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:41:21 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=14030#comment-93613 There will be a more diverse media ecosystem. There already is one. It includes both non-profit and for-profit models and both sectors are vitally important if we want to build better communities. Collaboration, integrity, transparency and great journalism are in high demand and now is the time to experiment! That's what we at The Sacramento Press are doing. There will be a more diverse media ecosystem. There already is one.

It includes both non-profit and for-profit models and both sectors are vitally important if we want to build better communities.

Collaboration, integrity, transparency and great journalism are in high demand and now is the time to experiment! That’s what we at The Sacramento Press are doing.

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