Comments on: Why link out? Four journalistic purposes of the noble hyperlink http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/ A collaborative effort to figure out the future of journalism. A project of Harvard University. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: iPhone 5 http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-284494 iPhone 5 Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:27:00 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-284494 Very very intresting when you use a thinks like iPhone Very very intresting when you use a thinks like iPhone

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]]> By: Wel of niet linken naar buiten? | herwinthole.nl http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-269715 Wel of niet linken naar buiten? | herwinthole.nl Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:13:29 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-269715 [...] van nature; speel daarop in. Hyperlinks zijn een fundamenteel onderdeel van het internet. Daarnaast is de link een ‘betaalmiddel’ waarmee mensen of organisaties beloond worden voor het creëren van content. Door niet te linken [...] [...] van nature; speel daarop in. Hyperlinks zijn een fundamenteel onderdeel van het internet. Daarnaast is de link een ‘betaalmiddel’ waarmee mensen of organisaties beloond worden voor het creëren van content. Door niet te linken [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Stray » The publishing industry needs a lightweight, open, paid syndication technology http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-269557 Jonathan Stray » The publishing industry needs a lightweight, open, paid syndication technology Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:14:47 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-269557 [...] is an important societal good. Linking is both embodied knowledge and a web navigation system, and linking is incredibly valuable to journalism. Nonetheless, I see an alternative to linking that aligns the interests of publishers and [...] [...] is an important societal good. Linking is both embodied knowledge and a web navigation system, and linking is incredibly valuable to journalism. Nonetheless, I see an alternative to linking that aligns the interests of publishers and [...]

]]> By: Attribution and linking in online journalism « Ed Kemp http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-193995 Attribution and linking in online journalism « Ed Kemp Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:09:09 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-193995 [...] Linking online is an ingenious form of attribution. [...] [...] Linking online is an ingenious form of attribution. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Stray » Designing journalism to be used http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-171712 Jonathan Stray » Designing journalism to be used Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:58:34 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-171712 [...] their relative paucity in professional work, is a topic I covered in great detail in a three part series for the Nieman Journalism Lab this summer, and I also wrote about the use of links for deep [...] [...] their relative paucity in professional work, is a topic I covered in great detail in a three part series for the Nieman Journalism Lab this summer, and I also wrote about the use of links for deep [...]

]]> By: The NCE News Practice exam: resources | Metamedia http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-147972 The NCE News Practice exam: resources | Metamedia Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:09:14 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-147972 [...] mashups, maps, timelines, social media, online reportage in all sorts of guises and the importance of the [...] [...] mashups, maps, timelines, social media, online reportage in all sorts of guises and the importance of the [...]

]]> By: Comment les grands de la presse font leurs liens? » Article » OWNI, Digital Journalism http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-135249 Comment les grands de la presse font leurs liens? » Article » OWNI, Digital Journalism Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:18 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-135249 [...] liens peuvent ajouter beaucoup de valeur aux articles, mais la profession de journaliste dans son ensemble a pris du temps pour les prendre au sérieux. [...] [...] liens peuvent ajouter beaucoup de valeur aux articles, mais la profession de journaliste dans son ensemble a pris du temps pour les prendre au sérieux. [...]

]]> By: links for 2010-06-18 « Onlinejournalismtest's Blog http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-128607 links for 2010-06-18 « Onlinejournalismtest's Blog Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:03:59 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-128607 [...] Why link out? Four journalistic purposes of the noble hyperlink » Nieman Journalism Lab (tags: linking) [...] [...] Why link out? Four journalistic purposes of the noble hyperlink » Nieman Journalism Lab (tags: linking) [...]

]]> By: YourTechWorld » Saturday links | Not Exactly Rocket Science http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-127107 YourTechWorld » Saturday links | Not Exactly Rocket Science Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:07:08 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-127107 [...] of using links in online journalism. Now Nieman Labs has a nice series of articles looking at the reasons for linking and comparing the use of links across different [...] [...] of using links in online journalism. Now Nieman Labs has a nice series of articles looking at the reasons for linking and comparing the use of links across different [...]

]]> By: Medial Digital» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart: Eingeloggt in zweieinhalb Tagen http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-127103 Medial Digital» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart: Eingeloggt in zweieinhalb Tagen Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:52:40 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-127103 [...] Why link out? Four journalistic purposes of the noble hyperlink [...] [...] Why link out? Four journalistic purposes of the noble hyperlink [...]

]]> By: Weblogg-ed » Reading as a Participation Sport http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-124692 Weblogg-ed » Reading as a Participation Sport Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:28:45 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-124692 [...] Why does the BBC want to send its readers away? The value of linking Why link out? Four journalistic... Making connections: How major news organizations talk about links [...] [...] Why does the BBC want to send its readers away? The value of linking Why link out? Four journalistic… Making connections: How major news organizations talk about links [...]

]]> By: Thanks for the link « Opening My Classroom Door http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-124366 Thanks for the link « Opening My Classroom Door Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:46:27 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-124366 [...] the link This post is inspired by a link on our #ecmp455 twitter feed to the article “Why link out?”  This article summarizes why links are so important in writing that takes place online. The [...] [...] the link This post is inspired by a link on our #ecmp455 twitter feed to the article “Why link out?”  This article summarizes why links are so important in writing that takes place online. The [...]

]]> By: Making connections: How major news organizations talk about links » Nieman Journalism Lab http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-124300 Making connections: How major news organizations talk about links » Nieman Journalism Lab Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:07:04 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-124300 [...] can add a lot of value to stories, but the journalism profession as a whole has been surprisingly slow to take them seriously. [...] [...] can add a lot of value to stories, but the journalism profession as a whole has been surprisingly slow to take them seriously. [...]

]]> By: Yvette Davis http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-124103 Yvette Davis Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:18:52 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-124103 YES YES YES! A 1,000 times yes! You had me at reason #1... YES YES YES! A 1,000 times yes!

You had me at reason #1…

]]> By: Passion, Engagement, Altruism = Genuine Relationships « Adam P. Coulter: Conduit for Young Communicators http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-123999 Passion, Engagement, Altruism = Genuine Relationships « Adam P. Coulter: Conduit for Young Communicators Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:04:48 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-123999 [...] For further, rich context along the same lines as the topic of the post, see this piece by Jonathan Stray (@jonathanstray) on the value and purpose of linking out in journalistic articles. [...] [...] For further, rich context along the same lines as the topic of the post, see this piece by Jonathan Stray (@jonathanstray) on the value and purpose of linking out in journalistic articles. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Stray http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-123923 Jonathan Stray Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:03:30 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-123923 "Are you better served by encountering the phrase ““Goldman Sachs, the embattled American investment bank,” or switching to another page of background on Goldman and then (presumably) coming back to pick up the narrative?" It depends whether I already know about Goldman or not. If I've been following the story and know all the players already -- or just don't care -- I'd rather skip the snippets of background. Perhaps this was a poor example; consider those run-on sentences we sometimes get when trying to explain why an obscure source is qualified ("Jane Doe, who worked for the department of giraffe management for seventeen years and wrote two books on African wildlife before becoming a giraffe herself," etc.) Whether the link makes the narrative smoother or not depends, I guess, on how much verbiage the reader is saved versus how much clicking away pains them. - Jonathan “Are you better served by encountering the phrase ““Goldman Sachs, the embattled American investment bank,” or switching to another page of background on Goldman and then (presumably) coming back to pick up the narrative?”

It depends whether I already know about Goldman or not. If I’ve been following the story and know all the players already — or just don’t care — I’d rather skip the snippets of background. Perhaps this was a poor example; consider those run-on sentences we sometimes get when trying to explain why an obscure source is qualified (“Jane Doe, who worked for the department of giraffe management for seventeen years and wrote two books on African wildlife before becoming a giraffe herself,” etc.)

Whether the link makes the narrative smoother or not depends, I guess, on how much verbiage the reader is saved versus how much clicking away pains them.

– Jonathan

]]> By: Howard Weaver http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/why-link-out-four-journalistic-purposes-of-the-noble-hyperlink/comment-page-1/#comment-123899 Howard Weaver Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:39:41 +0000 http://www.niemanlab.org/?p=16342#comment-123899 I certainly agree with most of your pro-link arguments Jonathan, but I disagree with your contention about link value in narratives. Just ask yourself: In reading a long story about financial behavior, are you better served by encountering the phrase "“Goldman Sachs, the embattled American investment bank," or switching to another page of background on Goldman and then (presumably) coming back to pick up the narrative? Doesn't seem like a close call to me. Links do many things better than print. Smoothing narratives isn't one of them. I certainly agree with most of your pro-link arguments Jonathan, but I disagree with your contention about link value in narratives.

Just ask yourself: In reading a long story about financial behavior, are you better served by encountering the phrase ““Goldman Sachs, the embattled American investment bank,” or switching to another page of background on Goldman and then (presumably) coming back to pick up the narrative?

Doesn’t seem like a close call to me.

Links do many things better than print. Smoothing narratives isn’t one of them.

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