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	<title>Comments on: Google News revamps its revamped design</title>
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		<title>By: Academacule</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-148326</link>
		<dc:creator>Academacule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tweaking a platform in response to user feedback is a good idea IF AND ONLY IF a tweak is all it needs.  The new design needs a complete overhaul (ideally back to the old design).

They ran a big experiment, force feeding the redesign to a randomly-selected group of very unlucky people who provided plentiful feedback.  All of which was clearly ignored, because it&#039;s the same feedback they&#039;re getting now.

Google&#039;s design process is as broken as BP&#039;s safety engineering process (see the record fine from OSHA the other day?), and the idea that Google is really &quot;being receptive of&quot; users strikes me as contrary to the evidence.

Shuffling deck chairs won&#039;t keep us dry, and minor tweaks won&#039;t convert me back to a Google News user, despite the fact that I used the page dozens of times a day before the redesign.

For now, I&#039;ll just have to stick with breakingnewsfeeds.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tweaking a platform in response to user feedback is a good idea IF AND ONLY IF a tweak is all it needs.  The new design needs a complete overhaul (ideally back to the old design).</p>
<p>They ran a big experiment, force feeding the redesign to a randomly-selected group of very unlucky people who provided plentiful feedback.  All of which was clearly ignored, because it&#8217;s the same feedback they&#8217;re getting now.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s design process is as broken as BP&#8217;s safety engineering process (see the record fine from OSHA the other day?), and the idea that Google is really &#8220;being receptive of&#8221; users strikes me as contrary to the evidence.</p>
<p>Shuffling deck chairs won&#8217;t keep us dry, and minor tweaks won&#8217;t convert me back to a Google News user, despite the fact that I used the page dozens of times a day before the redesign.</p>
<p>For now, I&#8217;ll just have to stick with breakingnewsfeeds.com</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-143062</link>
		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they really change anything?  :-O    

Still looks like crap to me.  I&#039;m surprised Google didn&#039;t just change it back considering the amount of complaints they have on their blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they really change anything?  :-O    </p>
<p>Still looks like crap to me.  I&#8217;m surprised Google didn&#8217;t just change it back considering the amount of complaints they have on their blog.</p>
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		<title>By: tmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-141280</link>
		<dc:creator>tmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is google trying to drive off customers?

Why are they trying to force us to read sports and crap that we do not want to see?

It looks like they are trying to program for tiney phones and are ignoring the computer users.

Perhaps this new page was built for android users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is google trying to drive off customers?</p>
<p>Why are they trying to force us to read sports and crap that we do not want to see?</p>
<p>It looks like they are trying to program for tiney phones and are ignoring the computer users.</p>
<p>Perhaps this new page was built for android users.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-141167</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garber, grow up and admit you were wrong in the first place about how great the redesign was instead of still spinning with:

&quot;But the subtle revamp indicates Google’s willingness — a willingness that’s part of its organizational DNA — to tweak its news platform according to the feedback it receives. Guiding users while also being receptive to them: seems a pretty good balance to me.&quot;

Balderdash! Google&#039;s lost whatever &quot;do no evil&quot; DNA it ever had. They tested this redesign, found it universally panned as a bad idea, and forced on the user community anyway!

You&#039;re supposed to be a professional communicator. Please explain how New Google News does a better job of communicating than the old version - because with three decades in the business, I certainly do not see it.

G-News now is like trying to find information in an old Gopher site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garber, grow up and admit you were wrong in the first place about how great the redesign was instead of still spinning with:</p>
<p>&#8220;But the subtle revamp indicates Google’s willingness — a willingness that’s part of its organizational DNA — to tweak its news platform according to the feedback it receives. Guiding users while also being receptive to them: seems a pretty good balance to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Balderdash! Google&#8217;s lost whatever &#8220;do no evil&#8221; DNA it ever had. They tested this redesign, found it universally panned as a bad idea, and forced on the user community anyway!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re supposed to be a professional communicator. Please explain how New Google News does a better job of communicating than the old version &#8211; because with three decades in the business, I certainly do not see it.</p>
<p>G-News now is like trying to find information in an old Gopher site.</p>
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		<title>By: ogman</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-140268</link>
		<dc:creator>ogman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your screenshot is inaccurate. It does not show that what really happens is that we get two columns crammed in the space of one, while the useless third column remains. True &quot;personalization&quot; would involve the option to eliminate the third column and it&#039;s useless spotlight and flip sections. However, personalization no longer truly exists on Google News and this silly two-column view is merely a childish reaction to honest user objections. In other words, it&#039;s &quot;evil.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your screenshot is inaccurate. It does not show that what really happens is that we get two columns crammed in the space of one, while the useless third column remains. True &#8220;personalization&#8221; would involve the option to eliminate the third column and it&#8217;s useless spotlight and flip sections. However, personalization no longer truly exists on Google News and this silly two-column view is merely a childish reaction to honest user objections. In other words, it&#8217;s &#8220;evil.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kass &#187; EXCLUSIVE: Revealing Before and After Pictures You Won&#8217;t See Anywhere Else!</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-140106</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kass &#187; EXCLUSIVE: Revealing Before and After Pictures You Won&#8217;t See Anywhere Else!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] intending to show the initial changes or recent tweaks (for example Technorati, GoogleWatch, and Harvard’s Nieman Journalism Lab). However, none that I’ve seen paints a useful picture of what many users (including me) dislike [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] intending to show the initial changes or recent tweaks (for example Technorati, GoogleWatch, and Harvard’s Nieman Journalism Lab). However, none that I’ve seen paints a useful picture of what many users (including me) dislike [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kass</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-140092</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>teaneedz has it right. They didn&#039;t really address the issues, though some people are swallowing the spin.

My guess is that Google is intentionally forcing users to do more clicking and mousing (and do so while logged in). With the old format, Google couldn&#039;t monitor how we read news, because we did it by moving our eyes, and they can&#039;t capture that. They can capture the clicks and scrolling. The extra value per user might easily compensate for any drop they might see in market share.

This is how many businesses operate. Print magazines once put their whole index on Page 1. Then they realized they could force users to view more ads if they scattered their index across pages 4 through 10. Some of them probably touted their new design as better for readers while at the same time selling more ads on the front pages at higher prices. Some may have lost some frustrated and longtime readers, yet come out ahead (from a business perspective).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teaneedz has it right. They didn&#8217;t really address the issues, though some people are swallowing the spin.</p>
<p>My guess is that Google is intentionally forcing users to do more clicking and mousing (and do so while logged in). With the old format, Google couldn&#8217;t monitor how we read news, because we did it by moving our eyes, and they can&#8217;t capture that. They can capture the clicks and scrolling. The extra value per user might easily compensate for any drop they might see in market share.</p>
<p>This is how many businesses operate. Print magazines once put their whole index on Page 1. Then they realized they could force users to view more ads if they scattered their index across pages 4 through 10. Some of them probably touted their new design as better for readers while at the same time selling more ads on the front pages at higher prices. Some may have lost some frustrated and longtime readers, yet come out ahead (from a business perspective).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-139810</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it hasn&#039;t changed on my site...I wrote them a scathing email and I hope they change but for now I am with Yahoo News which is 100 times better than the piece of s--t that Google news just redesigned. That boss should be fired at Google who oversaw this design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it hasn&#8217;t changed on my site&#8230;I wrote them a scathing email and I hope they change but for now I am with Yahoo News which is 100 times better than the piece of s&#8211;t that Google news just redesigned. That boss should be fired at Google who oversaw this design!</p>
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		<title>By: judasfer</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-139806</link>
		<dc:creator>judasfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hated the change myself. I think they were imitating Bing&#039;s news, which was a long list, and which Bing recently changed (after Google imitated) to Google&#039;s old format. too funny. Now google changes it back, kinda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated the change myself. I think they were imitating Bing&#8217;s news, which was a long list, and which Bing recently changed (after Google imitated) to Google&#8217;s old format. too funny. Now google changes it back, kinda.</p>
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		<title>By: teaneedz</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-139793</link>
		<dc:creator>teaneedz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one unhappy user decided to take the bull by it&#039;s horns and just make his own news aggregator.  A work in progress that appears to pick up on the values that Google left behind.  http://breakingnewsfeeds.com ... Not quite pretty yet but it&#039;s functional.  In fact it now sits on my bookmark bar where Google News no longer is.  During the two week process of Google deciding to introduce two columns (ahem 3 columns) and a well positioned design team putting something together, one smart guy puts together a real solution based on the genes that Google&#039;s DNA originally put out before the horrible mutation accident of 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one unhappy user decided to take the bull by it&#8217;s horns and just make his own news aggregator.  A work in progress that appears to pick up on the values that Google left behind.  <a href="http://breakingnewsfeeds.com" rel="nofollow">http://breakingnewsfeeds.com</a> &#8230; Not quite pretty yet but it&#8217;s functional.  In fact it now sits on my bookmark bar where Google News no longer is.  During the two week process of Google deciding to introduce two columns (ahem 3 columns) and a well positioned design team putting something together, one smart guy puts together a real solution based on the genes that Google&#8217;s DNA originally put out before the horrible mutation accident of 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: teaneedz</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-139782</link>
		<dc:creator>teaneedz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, the redesign of the redesign is more a matter of putting lipstick on a pig.  It still fails the most basic of user-experience principles .. usability and friendliness.  The redesigned pig fails unless one actually signs in.  The default version is hard on the eyes and the thought that news is customized goes against the grain of those who want to be exposed to a variety of topics.  What interests me one day may not interest me tomorrow.  The redesign does not interest me today.  Yes, Google has provided a two column option but it&#039;s really 3 columns and more of a child saying, &quot;Here&#039;s two columns already!  So what if it&#039;s all squished.  Don&#039;t you like our 3rd column? &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the redesign of the redesign is more a matter of putting lipstick on a pig.  It still fails the most basic of user-experience principles .. usability and friendliness.  The redesigned pig fails unless one actually signs in.  The default version is hard on the eyes and the thought that news is customized goes against the grain of those who want to be exposed to a variety of topics.  What interests me one day may not interest me tomorrow.  The redesign does not interest me today.  Yes, Google has provided a two column option but it&#8217;s really 3 columns and more of a child saying, &#8220;Here&#8217;s two columns already!  So what if it&#8217;s all squished.  Don&#8217;t you like our 3rd column? &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: jnfr</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/google-news-revamps-its-revamped-design/comment-page-1/#comment-139771</link>
		<dc:creator>jnfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hasn&#039;t changed on my page and I still hate it. I&#039;m just not using the service at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hasn&#8217;t changed on my page and I still hate it. I&#8217;m just not using the service at this point.</p>
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