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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t use the PBS model to save journalism. &#171; News Mockers</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-180662</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t use the PBS model to save journalism. &#171; News Mockers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be a minor media restructuring celebrity for his ideas about a six-legged stool model or for touting NPR&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sustainable HyperLocal Journalism Business Models</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-171284</link>
		<dc:creator>Sustainable HyperLocal Journalism Business Models</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Newsonomics of TBD » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-147657</link>
		<dc:creator>The Newsonomics of TBD » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than non-profits MinnPost and Texas Tribune, for instance, both of which are focusing strongly on membership and corporate/institutional sponsorships. The nonprofits are thinking that maybe a third &#8212; or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than non-profits MinnPost and Texas Tribune, for instance, both of which are focusing strongly on membership and corporate/institutional sponsorships. The nonprofits are thinking that maybe a third &#8212; or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-07-30 &#124; sammeddis.com</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-145840</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2010-07-30 &#124; sammeddis.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Latest stabs at producing online news revenue: membership &#039;New journalism is hungry for new business models. Beyond millions in foundation start-up support, what will sustain these enterprises? One answer: membership.&#039; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Latest stabs at producing online news revenue: membership &#39;New journalism is hungry for new business models. Beyond millions in foundation start-up support, what will sustain these enterprises? One answer: membership.&#39; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Newsonomics of the fading 80/20 rule » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-145307</link>
		<dc:creator>The Newsonomics of the fading 80/20 rule » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the digital news world seems consumed with conversations about paywalls and memberships, it is old-fashioned print circulation revenue that is the gainer in the post-80/20 formulas. Sure, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the digital news world seems consumed with conversations about paywalls and memberships, it is old-fashioned print circulation revenue that is the gainer in the post-80/20 formulas. Sure, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Project Update: Exploring Models and Developing Priorities &#171; Journalism Design Collaborative Project</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-144177</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Update: Exploring Models and Developing Priorities &#171; Journalism Design Collaborative Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an intended pathway to sustainability from the outset.  Journalism projects these days must have diverse revenue streams and be prepared to innovate to survive.  I recently heard an analogy in which the leader of one of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Members Only &#171; Alice M. Walton</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-144112</link>
		<dc:creator>Members Only &#171; Alice M. Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] explains the state of membership in a recent piece for the Nieman Journalism Lab. According to the article, The Texas Tribune has 1,700 members, with a goal of reaching 10,000 members. Members, on average, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] explains the state of membership in a recent piece for the Nieman Journalism Lab. According to the article, The Texas Tribune has 1,700 members, with a goal of reaching 10,000 members. Members, on average, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Newsonomics of membership, part 2 » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143957</link>
		<dc:creator>The Newsonomics of membership, part 2 » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news organizations have embraced the membership model (see part 1 of The Newsonomics of membership), but they don&#8217;t have to reinvent the wheel to do it. They can hone that wheel, for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] news organizations have embraced the membership model (see part 1 of The Newsonomics of membership), but they don&#8217;t have to reinvent the wheel to do it. They can hone that wheel, for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Chorley</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143318</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Chorley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, I agree with you. There are a lot of ways to build a local news business. Our site has been around (this is our second version) for two years now, and we have built a great business based on ad sales and subscriptions. 

Our small town population of 3000 has been able to support an editor and ad sales person while also building a subscriber list of over 180. We will be testing the Daily Deal revenue stream shortly as well. 

I think the entrepreneurial journalist has to think in multiple streams of income, while also partnering up with an ad sales person. We think this is the key to success. Have two experts to make your site work; one in content and one in sales. It really works out well, especially for the small town or neighborhood market where businesses want to attract your local readers. 

Also, I would suggest farming out the initial IT tasks to get your site off the ground fast. I think there are too many people out there trying to put their sites together on the fly while they learn the basics of building a web site. You can get a professionally done Drupal news site started for about $500 now, which is worth every penny when you consider the time it saves you to learn it on the fly. 

Anyway, I think memberships or subscriptions can be a valuable piece of the puzzle, but it should be considered just one of multiple income streams.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, I agree with you. There are a lot of ways to build a local news business. Our site has been around (this is our second version) for two years now, and we have built a great business based on ad sales and subscriptions. </p>
<p>Our small town population of 3000 has been able to support an editor and ad sales person while also building a subscriber list of over 180. We will be testing the Daily Deal revenue stream shortly as well. </p>
<p>I think the entrepreneurial journalist has to think in multiple streams of income, while also partnering up with an ad sales person. We think this is the key to success. Have two experts to make your site work; one in content and one in sales. It really works out well, especially for the small town or neighborhood market where businesses want to attract your local readers. </p>
<p>Also, I would suggest farming out the initial IT tasks to get your site off the ground fast. I think there are too many people out there trying to put their sites together on the fly while they learn the basics of building a web site. You can get a professionally done Drupal news site started for about $500 now, which is worth every penny when you consider the time it saves you to learn it on the fly. </p>
<p>Anyway, I think memberships or subscriptions can be a valuable piece of the puzzle, but it should be considered just one of multiple income streams.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: amygoodall</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143280</link>
		<dc:creator>amygoodall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time for journalists to stop trying to find some sort of magical new business model (there are none: the story notes &quot;membership&quot; is no different NPR&#039;s so-called business model -- which is supported by tax dollars, no? Which is really no different from charity or welfare?). It&#039;s time for journalists to think like business people and write and market content in a way that would derive value. This isn&#039;t an impossible concept. Movies don&#039;t get made unless there&#039;s an audience. Why should news stories get written unless someone cares about them? I&#039;m not saying &quot;don&#039;t do investigative projects on public corruption.&quot; I&#039;m saying figure out what parts of your readership really, really want to know about public corruption and make a news product that appeals to them. THAT you can sell. You can&#039;t sell general news to a general audience. But you can sell specialized news to a specialized audience. If you do it well.  If you think this way, you may find that you write a lot fewer dull stories about school supplies and minor sewer rate increases. And this is really no problem at all, from my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for journalists to stop trying to find some sort of magical new business model (there are none: the story notes &#8220;membership&#8221; is no different NPR&#8217;s so-called business model &#8212; which is supported by tax dollars, no? Which is really no different from charity or welfare?). It&#8217;s time for journalists to think like business people and write and market content in a way that would derive value. This isn&#8217;t an impossible concept. Movies don&#8217;t get made unless there&#8217;s an audience. Why should news stories get written unless someone cares about them? I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;don&#8217;t do investigative projects on public corruption.&#8221; I&#8217;m saying figure out what parts of your readership really, really want to know about public corruption and make a news product that appeals to them. THAT you can sell. You can&#8217;t sell general news to a general audience. But you can sell specialized news to a specialized audience. If you do it well.  If you think this way, you may find that you write a lot fewer dull stories about school supplies and minor sewer rate increases. And this is really no problem at all, from my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-07-30 &#187; Wha&#39;Happened?</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143173</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2010-07-30 &#187; Wha&#39;Happened?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Newsonomics of membership » Nieman Journalism Lab (tags: businessmodels clubs engagement) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Doctor</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick: You&#039;re right. It should be average rather than median, in that reference. 

As to trends, here&#039;s my sense:
---First and most importantly, it&#039;s early on all this. So clearly, in starting to survey practices, it&#039;s clear that metrics and standards have yet to be established, and even counting systems differ from organization to organization.
---MinnPost is about four times older than Texas Tribune at this nascent point and that&#039;s meaningful. One thing I think we&#039;ll learn from NPR is that the length of a relationship is an important driver of retention and donation size. 
---At this point, a few big individual gifts -- as opposed to institutional/corporate gifts (and sometimes that boundary may be fuzzy)-- may throw averages off.

Most useful, I think, is for these sites to agree on similar standards for definition and counting, which can then serve as a foundation for best practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick: You&#8217;re right. It should be average rather than median, in that reference. </p>
<p>As to trends, here&#8217;s my sense:<br />
&#8212;First and most importantly, it&#8217;s early on all this. So clearly, in starting to survey practices, it&#8217;s clear that metrics and standards have yet to be established, and even counting systems differ from organization to organization.<br />
&#8212;MinnPost is about four times older than Texas Tribune at this nascent point and that&#8217;s meaningful. One thing I think we&#8217;ll learn from NPR is that the length of a relationship is an important driver of retention and donation size.<br />
&#8212;At this point, a few big individual gifts &#8212; as opposed to institutional/corporate gifts (and sometimes that boundary may be fuzzy)&#8211; may throw averages off.</p>
<p>Most useful, I think, is for these sites to agree on similar standards for definition and counting, which can then serve as a foundation for best practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Tofel</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-143065</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting and important discussion.  I note that you refer to the importance of the amount of the &quot;median&quot; gift, but you mean average, right?  Any sense, Ken, of why Texas would appear to be getting $100 on average while Minnesota is getting $180 on average?  Also, do you have a point of view on whether the much lower price point of GlobalPost is wise or unwise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting and important discussion.  I note that you refer to the importance of the amount of the &#8220;median&#8221; gift, but you mean average, right?  Any sense, Ken, of why Texas would appear to be getting $100 on average while Minnesota is getting $180 on average?  Also, do you have a point of view on whether the much lower price point of GlobalPost is wise or unwise?</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy @ WSB</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-142989</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy @ WSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great if you&#039;re trying to cover an entire metro area or even state and maybe can muster a few thousand members. Does not seem to hold particular promise for those of us who have bootstrapped in neighborhoods, even one the size of our coverage area (about 70,000 people). 

We had our first and only &quot;pledge day&quot; three years ago, before going commercial and selling ads, and while we were very appreciative of those who contributed almost $2,000 that day (a quarter of it coming from the first, and very generous, donor), we ultimately determined that the 70 or so people who donated represented about 3% of our daily visitors at the time. We have since quintupled our number of daily visitors, yet even if we managed to convert 3% of the new number to pledgers or donors, and say they somehow all agreed to pay $10/month, that would provide us $3,000/month, nowhere near enough to run a site on. So as much as we get dinged for the alleged non-&quot;scalability&quot; of the small, hardworking news org model, in reverse, things like this that may work OK for those with bigger orgs do not seem  &quot;scalable&quot; in the downward direction. 

If you say, &quot;well, try that ALONG WITH your current model&quot; - that would take time and effort that needs to be put into the content that people have come to expect us to provide 24/7. Back on our one and only Pledge Day, somebody even said &quot;Look, don&#039;t hound me for money. Just go sell some ads.&quot; So we did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great if you&#8217;re trying to cover an entire metro area or even state and maybe can muster a few thousand members. Does not seem to hold particular promise for those of us who have bootstrapped in neighborhoods, even one the size of our coverage area (about 70,000 people). </p>
<p>We had our first and only &#8220;pledge day&#8221; three years ago, before going commercial and selling ads, and while we were very appreciative of those who contributed almost $2,000 that day (a quarter of it coming from the first, and very generous, donor), we ultimately determined that the 70 or so people who donated represented about 3% of our daily visitors at the time. We have since quintupled our number of daily visitors, yet even if we managed to convert 3% of the new number to pledgers or donors, and say they somehow all agreed to pay $10/month, that would provide us $3,000/month, nowhere near enough to run a site on. So as much as we get dinged for the alleged non-&#8221;scalability&#8221; of the small, hardworking news org model, in reverse, things like this that may work OK for those with bigger orgs do not seem  &#8220;scalable&#8221; in the downward direction. </p>
<p>If you say, &#8220;well, try that ALONG WITH your current model&#8221; &#8211; that would take time and effort that needs to be put into the content that people have come to expect us to provide 24/7. Back on our one and only Pledge Day, somebody even said &#8220;Look, don&#8217;t hound me for money. Just go sell some ads.&#8221; So we did.</p>
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		<title>By: Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/the-newsonomics-of-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-142985</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In 2009, membership contributed to 30% of the site’s $1.2 billion, bringing in about $360,000.&quot;

Should that be million? &lt;em&gt;[Yep, fixed — thanks! —Josh]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In 2009, membership contributed to 30% of the site’s $1.2 billion, bringing in about $360,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Should that be million? <em>[Yep, fixed — thanks! —Josh]</em></p>
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