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	<title>Comments on: WikiLeaks and continuity: What if we had a news outlet exclusively focused on follow-up journalism?</title>
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		<title>By: Now that&#8217;s engagement: Cal Watch offers lead screenings » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/wikileaks-and-continuity-what-if-we-had-a-news-outlet-exclusively-focused-on-follow-up-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-180600</link>
		<dc:creator>Now that&#8217;s engagement: Cal Watch offers lead screenings » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also create a way for California Watch reporters to continue their story even after it&#8217;s been published and distributed. &#8220;We wanted to go the extra step,&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also create a way for California Watch reporters to continue their story even after it&#8217;s been published and distributed. &#8220;We wanted to go the extra step,&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: Newsweek&#8217;s new owner, WikiLeaks and context, and Tumblr&#8217;s media trendiness » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: Newsweek&#8217;s new owner, WikiLeaks and context, and Tumblr&#8217;s media trendiness » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an antiquated scoop-based definition of news and bring the reality of the war home to people. In a smart post musing on the structure of the modern news story, the Lab&#8217;s Megan Garber proposed an outlet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an antiquated scoop-based definition of news and bring the reality of the war home to people. In a smart post musing on the structure of the modern news story, the Lab&#8217;s Megan Garber proposed an outlet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 66</title>
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		<dc:creator>66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole system is set up to keep you in motion. Right or wrong that&#039;s how the military functions.  The leaker is now like the gladiator making his last stand against the lions.  The lions are both moving out and moving in for the kill.  That&#039;s continuity.  You might be better served taming the lions than getting them angry to keep staying alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole system is set up to keep you in motion. Right or wrong that&#8217;s how the military functions.  The leaker is now like the gladiator making his last stand against the lions.  The lions are both moving out and moving in for the kill.  That&#8217;s continuity.  You might be better served taming the lions than getting them angry to keep staying alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan Garber</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/wikileaks-and-continuity-what-if-we-had-a-news-outlet-exclusively-focused-on-follow-up-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-143980</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan Garber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt: I just replied to your post. Epically. In the form of another post. It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/08/following-up-on-the-need-for-follow-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

And for the record, I have yet to encounter a Snarkmarket post I haven&#039;t liked. Which is to say, by all means keep dropping by, and keep those links coming!

@Adam O&#039;Kane: Right on!

@Ted: That&#039;s a great point. But it&#039;s also why I think a separate, dedicated outlet could (maybe) be helpful. If its very mandate were to live outside the traditional news cycle (more on that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/08/following-up-on-the-need-for-follow-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), such an outlet wouldn&#039;t have to be concerned about catering to the &quot;life cycle,&quot; as you rightly put it, of that salacious little news nugget. Because the outlet itself, in theory, would dictate what that life cycle would be. 

@PlebisPower: I agree -- ProPublica is a good example of an outlet that&#039;s doing a great job with sustaining interest in stories, promoting and provoking follow-ups, etc. Thanks for pointing that out. 

Your example also raises an important point about funding: ProPublica is a nonprofit. So, I&#039;d wager, are most of the other outlets we&#039;d classify as &quot;doing a good job keeping stories alive.&quot; And I&#039;d think, if the whole follow-up-focused-outlet idea were to transition from &quot;thought experiment&quot; to just &quot;experiment,&quot; it, too, would have to live outside the marketplace -- via foundation funding or patron funding or what have you. The ability to step back from the fray -- to have the patience and courage and, frankly, luxury to tell stories that might not get tons of page views, but that sustain memory over time -- is something that a purely market-based funding model likely wouldn&#039;t afford. 

I&#039;d love to be wrong about that; but I think ProPublica and their counterparts, in the great work they do keeping important stories alive, are actually the exception that proves the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt: I just replied to your post. Epically. In the form of another post. It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/08/following-up-on-the-need-for-follow-up/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>
<p>And for the record, I have yet to encounter a Snarkmarket post I haven&#8217;t liked. Which is to say, by all means keep dropping by, and keep those links coming!</p>
<p>@Adam O&#8217;Kane: Right on!</p>
<p>@Ted: That&#8217;s a great point. But it&#8217;s also why I think a separate, dedicated outlet could (maybe) be helpful. If its very mandate were to live outside the traditional news cycle (more on that <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/08/following-up-on-the-need-for-follow-up/" rel="nofollow">here</a>), such an outlet wouldn&#8217;t have to be concerned about catering to the &#8220;life cycle,&#8221; as you rightly put it, of that salacious little news nugget. Because the outlet itself, in theory, would dictate what that life cycle would be. </p>
<p>@PlebisPower: I agree &#8212; ProPublica is a good example of an outlet that&#8217;s doing a great job with sustaining interest in stories, promoting and provoking follow-ups, etc. Thanks for pointing that out. </p>
<p>Your example also raises an important point about funding: ProPublica is a nonprofit. So, I&#8217;d wager, are most of the other outlets we&#8217;d classify as &#8220;doing a good job keeping stories alive.&#8221; And I&#8217;d think, if the whole follow-up-focused-outlet idea were to transition from &#8220;thought experiment&#8221; to just &#8220;experiment,&#8221; it, too, would have to live outside the marketplace &#8212; via foundation funding or patron funding or what have you. The ability to step back from the fray &#8212; to have the patience and courage and, frankly, luxury to tell stories that might not get tons of page views, but that sustain memory over time &#8212; is something that a purely market-based funding model likely wouldn&#8217;t afford. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to be wrong about that; but I think ProPublica and their counterparts, in the great work they do keeping important stories alive, are actually the exception that proves the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Following up on the need for follow-up » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Following up on the need for follow-up » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thompson, currently of NPR and always of Snarkmarket, left a comment on my post from Friday about the need for follow-up journalism &#8212; including a link to a Snarkmarket post he&#8217;d [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thompson, currently of NPR and always of Snarkmarket, left a comment on my post from Friday about the need for follow-up journalism &#8212; including a link to a Snarkmarket post he&#8217;d [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 66</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/wikileaks-and-continuity-what-if-we-had-a-news-outlet-exclusively-focused-on-follow-up-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-143950</link>
		<dc:creator>66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikileaks is basically ID theft with deadly consequences.  Journalism is protective and respects confidences.  The leaked documents were stolen and that is receiving stolen goods.  Wikileaks is a anti-privacy criminal terrorist network with a tip jar.  People are going to die or get hurt, but it&#039;s a rough game.  You&#039;ll end up being guarded by a bunch of DOD jar heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikileaks is basically ID theft with deadly consequences.  Journalism is protective and respects confidences.  The leaked documents were stolen and that is receiving stolen goods.  Wikileaks is a anti-privacy criminal terrorist network with a tip jar.  People are going to die or get hurt, but it&#8217;s a rough game.  You&#8217;ll end up being guarded by a bunch of DOD jar heads.</p>
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		<title>By: PlebisPower</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/wikileaks-and-continuity-what-if-we-had-a-news-outlet-exclusively-focused-on-follow-up-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-143877</link>
		<dc:creator>PlebisPower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should say not too complex for traditional outlets exactly, because there is wonderful enterprise reporting that keeps the faith in establishment media organizations. I meant they couple enterprise reporting with sustained attention to the story, and use organized data to add value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should say not too complex for traditional outlets exactly, because there is wonderful enterprise reporting that keeps the faith in establishment media organizations. I meant they couple enterprise reporting with sustained attention to the story, and use organized data to add value.</p>
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		<title>By: PlebisPower</title>
		<link>http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/07/wikileaks-and-continuity-what-if-we-had-a-news-outlet-exclusively-focused-on-follow-up-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-143876</link>
		<dc:creator>PlebisPower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ProPublica comes closest to the model that you&#039;re proposing/advocating. That well-funded nonprofit has used its considerable support and talent to drill down into stories too complex for traditional outlets. They provide useful data tools that allow (like the tools now emerging around the war logs) for enterprising readers - and not just enterprise reporters - to dig deeper. By involving readers this way, I think, ProPublica successfully sustains interest, which is often rewarded by follow up stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ProPublica comes closest to the model that you&#8217;re proposing/advocating. That well-funded nonprofit has used its considerable support and talent to drill down into stories too complex for traditional outlets. They provide useful data tools that allow (like the tools now emerging around the war logs) for enterprising readers &#8211; and not just enterprise reporters &#8211; to dig deeper. By involving readers this way, I think, ProPublica successfully sustains interest, which is often rewarded by follow up stories.</p>
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		<title>By: (Open) What if we had a news outlet exclusively focused on follow-up journalism?</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Open) What if we had a news outlet exclusively focused on follow-up journalism?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] good journalists find stories. The better ones keep them going. The best keep them burning. ...    ----More----  I recommenced reading the full article it has many good points regarding psychology, mass media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] good journalists find stories. The better ones keep them going. The best keep them burning. &#8230;    &#8212;-More&#8212;-  I recommenced reading the full article it has many good points regarding psychology, mass media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ted McEnroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted McEnroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of this - I see one issue for followupstories.org, though. Time. We&#039;ve all seen that doing the follow up often takes longer than the life cycle of a juicy salacious tidbit allows. By the time thoughtful insight can come together, the genie is out of the bottle. 

But it seems worth the shot. And maybe the media have been chastened enough our shortcomings in following up that we would report on the follow up if someone else did the heavy lifting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of this &#8211; I see one issue for followupstories.org, though. Time. We&#8217;ve all seen that doing the follow up often takes longer than the life cycle of a juicy salacious tidbit allows. By the time thoughtful insight can come together, the genie is out of the bottle. </p>
<p>But it seems worth the shot. And maybe the media have been chastened enough our shortcomings in following up that we would report on the follow up if someone else did the heavy lifting.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam O'Kane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam O'Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. Just snatched up followupstories.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. Just snatched up followupstories.org.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a terrific, terrific question/idea, Megan. I&#039;ll risk the chance that you accuse me of just dropping in occasionally with links to past Snarkmarket posts, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://snarkmarket.com/blog/snarkives/journalism/the_attention_deficit_the_need_for_timeless_journalism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there&#039;s at least one&lt;/a&gt; I think is relevant.

I&#039;ll try to add more thoughts, &#039;cause I think there&#039;s really something to this. I would love to quickly drive a stake through the practice of using the Web to drop a giant depth presentation at the end of our investigation and basically wash our hands of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a terrific, terrific question/idea, Megan. I&#8217;ll risk the chance that you accuse me of just dropping in occasionally with links to past Snarkmarket posts, but <a href="http://snarkmarket.com/blog/snarkives/journalism/the_attention_deficit_the_need_for_timeless_journalism/" rel="nofollow">there&#8217;s at least one</a> I think is relevant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to add more thoughts, &#8217;cause I think there&#8217;s really something to this. I would love to quickly drive a stake through the practice of using the Web to drop a giant depth presentation at the end of our investigation and basically wash our hands of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikileaks: when it&#8217;s not a scoop but it&#8217;s still news — Scott Rosenberg&#39;s Wordyard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wikileaks: when it&#8217;s not a scoop but it&#8217;s still news — Scott Rosenberg&#39;s Wordyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Megan Garber at Nieman Lab asks, &#8220;What if we had an outlet dedicated to continuity journalism — a news organization whose sole purpose was to follow up on stories whose sheer magnitude precludes them from ongoing treatment by our existing media outlets?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Megan Garber at Nieman Lab asks, &#8220;What if we had an outlet dedicated to continuity journalism — a news organization whose sole purpose was to follow up on stories whose sheer magnitude precludes them from ongoing treatment by our existing media outlets?&#8221; [...]</p>
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