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NewspaperProject: a wobbly kickoff

It’s all the fault of us bloggers on “websites that feature negative, gloom-and-doom stories about newspapers.”  So, “a group of newspaper executives” has launched NewspaperProject.org,* which “will be devoted to insightful articles, commentary and research that provide a more balanced perspective on what newspaper companies can do to survive and thrive in the years ahead.”  The “group” also produced print ads and website banners designed for a one-day deployment on Monday, making the point that more people read newspapers than watched the Superbowl.

A “more balanced perspective” presumably means: news and commentary with the optimistic view that the existing newspaper business model has got a future.  So the site offers headlines like: “NYT executive editor on why newspapers will survive,” “Time to stand up for newspapers,” “Time for Newspaper Folks to Fight Back,” “The Catalog Factor: Why investors should buy newspaper stocks,” and, believe it or not, David Carr’s “Let’s Invent an i-Tunes for News.” (Yes, that one.)  We won’t read about the next newspaper bankruptcy at NewspaperProject.

One of the newspaper industry’s long-standing problems is that it consistently does a terrible job promoting itself.  Or rather, it has inconsistently done a terrible job — most of the time it has done no industry-wide promotion at all, and when it has (there have been two or three industry-wide campaigns organized by the NAA in the last decade), it has been done poorly and without followthrough.  So far, this is no exception.  Let us count the ways this is not the “Got Milk” of daily newspapers:

  • Transparency, or rather, the lack thereof.  Who are those “newspaper executives”?  There is no “About Us” or “Contact Us” at NewspaperProject indicating who owns or runs it.  Readers are invited to react via an anonymous Gmail address.  The site URL was registered via Advance Magazines, a unit of the Newhouse family’s Advance Publications (which may explain the secretive approach).   Elsewhere, we learn that the effort is orchestrated by  Donna Barrett, president and CEO of Community Newspaper Holdings, Brian P. Tierney, publisher and CEO of the Philadelphia Inquirer and Daily News, Randy Siegel, president and publisher of Parade Publications, and Jay Smith, former president of Cox Newspapers.
  • A fuzzy message. What is the point of the headline on the banner ad shown at the top of this post?  I worked with national sales representatives for newspapers for at least 20 years, during which they consistently tried to pitch agencies on the notion that “newspapers are the last mass medium,” only to watch national ad volume continue to decline.  More people watched television, more people used the internet, more people listened to the radio, more people saw a billboard, and more people used cell phones than “watched the big game,” as well — so what?  We’ve been there, we’ve done this — what we need is a much clearer pitch.
  • And a questionable message, to boot.  The ad was written before the game, and doesn’t show sources for its claims (but it should), nor does it explain what’s meant by “watched.”  But Nielsen reports that the Superbowl had 147 million viewers who tuned in for at least six minutes, and an average viewership of 95.4 million — not appreciably below the 100 million daily newspaper readers claimed by the ad.
  • Focusing on the delivery method, rather than the product.  Progressive industry executives, including New York Times executive editor Bill Keller, whose post leads the site today (it’s part of a week-long Q&A worth following), see the industry on a path of transition from print delivery to digital delivery.  No, print is not dead, but readers who prefer print are getting older every day.   NewspaperProject is focused on the unsustainable model of printing and delivering newsprint to customer base that will soon consist mainly of retired people.  (In fairness, the ad message does, in a footnote-ish way, tack “and newspaper websites” after “newspapers,” but the headline is focused only on print.)
  • Too little, too late.  Perhaps the group behind NewspaperProject has more up their sleeve.  But a one-day ad campaign clearly isn’t enough.  The followthrough, in the form of a more evergreen campaign, should have happened already, and to the extent the campaign might drive an occasional media buyer to the site, there should be a wealth of links to information supporting the contention that newspapers and newspaper web sites are good choices for advertisers.  And perhaps more importantly, there should be a strong, simple, direct summary pitch.  Right now, there are three “Resource Links,” one to a 2007 study.  All three seem intended to show that reading newspapers drives people to look at web content, but there’s no context for those messages.  And there’s no action line — if somehow I’m convinced and want to buy newspaper advertising, what do I do next?  The site and the promo ads don’t tell me.

*UPDATE, Feb. 4:  People following my link in the first paragraph to NewspaperProject.org today will, strangely enough, see my own post about social networking excerpted and linked at the top of that site.  For the record, they asked me if they could use it, and I said of course, why not.

                                   
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  • http://www.myfortdodge.com/ Bill Grady

    The newspaper business has gone after several threats over the years; radio, broadcast TV, cable TV, and have even compromised with a “take a multi-media” approach. The fact that this latest version is put on by a small group of newspaper executives shows either a type of vigilantism or a more prevalent “head in the sand” approach that exists within the industry. From a distance it looks like a short-term “fiddle while Rome burns” for a handful of newspaper executives who want to feel good today but in reality are just plain unable to face the truth about a business that’s changed. All the good PR in the world is not going to suddenly attract younger readers to the printed version of your local newspaper. The latest generation views reading the news in print as “yesterdays news” when compared to the online counterpart. They prefer the online version, so go be good at that. If they seize the opportunity now, online news content is a battle that the newspapers can, and in my opinion are winning. These newspaper executives need to give up on the hold in your hand version of the paper, and concentrate on how do we make the online version profitable or they may end up loosing that battle too.

  • http://newsafternewspapers.blogspot.com/ Martin Langeveld

    Agreed, Bill. As I might have added, in regards to your “yesterday’s news” comment — the Superbowl stories in Monday’s papers were indeed yesterday’s news; for the “latest generation” and even some folks with gray hair, the Twitter chatter during the game was the news of the day.

  • http://www.timwindsor.com/ Tim Windsor

    I can picture how this came to be:

    “There’s too much negative reporting about the newspaper business. No wonder people think we’re dying: We keep TELLING them we’re dying.”

    As if merely changing the storyline will change the reality on the ground.

  • http://www.digitaldeliverance.com Vin Crosbie

    Indeed, why can’t newspapers print only good news!

  • http://www.niemanlab.org Zach Seward

    Agreed with all this. I also think that the football in their Super Bowl ad kind of unfortunately reinforces the newspaper-as-birdcage-lining theme. And today their site links to a Roger Ebert piece in which he claims that newspapers are “more orderly and faster” than news websites.

  • http://www.wacotrib.com Carlos Sanchez

    I can understand the reluctance of anyone to launch an effort such as newspaperproject.com.

    With so many experts out there ready to weigh in with criticism, who the hell would want to try something?

    The point is, something is being attempted.

    Too late? Perhaps, but I believe not. Poorly executed? Again, something that is up for debate. I happened to like the point that was made.

    We can nitpick these efforts to death or we can view this an opportunity to build upon.

    When my staff comes into my office to complain about anything, I send them packing until they come back with something resembling a solution.

    You all have identified the problems. What are the solutions?

  • http://newsafternewspapers.blogspot.com/ Martin Langeveld

    Carlos, regarding your question about solutions, there are a lot of suggested answers in various posts on this site and at other media blogs.

    Here’s a list of posts that incorporate some of my own thinking. These are at my old blog, News After Newspapers:

    Why not wikify your newsroom?

    Foundations for a new business model

    The economics of moving away from print

    Maximizing online ad sales at newspaper sites

    What an “online-first” newsroom means

  • http://www.wacotrib.com Carlos Sanchez

    Martin, I have already devoured and gotten excited about many of your posts, particularly the one about what an online-first newsroom means. Thanks.

  • http://www.myfortdodge.com/ Bill Grady

    Carlos, sounds like you’ve confused an “opinion” with a “complaint”.

    “When my staff comes into my office to complain about anything, I send them packing until they come back with something resembling a solution.”

    That seems like a pat answer from someone who seldom offers a solution themselves.

    Criticizing the critics is no more creative or forward thinking than waiting for someone else to walk in the door with an idea that you’d approve of. “Just what I was thinking, good work Jenkins”.

    What are your solutions Carlos? I’d enjoy reading them.

  • http://www.wacotrib.com Carlos Sanchez

    I’m not confusing anything, Bill.

    I’m venting because newsrooms are doing extremely creative things these days — mine included — and the naysayers seem to drown it all out.

    I appreciate the efforts by the newspaperproject for what they are: a simple show of support for a struggling industry.

    It’s a good first step for a one-dimensional society that seems to enjoy the struggles of the media without fully realizing the implications to democracy of weak journalism.

    So analyze each of my words, Bill.

    Then…attack.

  • http://www.myfortdodge.com/ Bill Grady

    Carlos….I agree with you..positive efforts are good. But you can’t take good intentions to the bank.

    Hope we differ in opinions as friends…best of luck in 2009.

  • http://www.wacotrib.com Carlos Sanchez

    I appreciate your comments, Bill.

    We definitely can’t take positive efforts to the bank. But I am convinced that there are enough smart people in this industry that a solution can be reached.

    A new business model will be hatched. And debates such as this will contribute.

    Best of luck to you as well.

  • http://newspaperproject.org Randy Siegel

    Hi Martin –

    Sorry you didn’t like the first ad we ran to help launch the Newspaper Project. I doubt we can change your opinion or get you to be less cynical about our efforts but we will certainly try. First, the audience data we used in the Super Bowl ad came from Nielsen and Scarborough. Yes, more people read a newspaper on Monday than watched the Super Bowl on Sunday. Second, I agree with you that the “Newspapers have unparalleled reach” message we conveyed in our initial execution is not a panacea for the newspaper industry’s complex challenges. But it’s a good starting point and in the next few weeks, you will see new print and online ads that take a very different approach. Third, we never said, nor do we believe, that the future of newspapers is all about print. On the contrary, newspaper companies must accelerate their development of innovative products that meet the news and information needs of consumers in multiple formats. Finally, all conspiracy theories aside, on January 7th, four idealistic yet somewhat frustrated newspaper executives sat in a room in New York for the first time and sketched out our ideas. On February 2nd, with a tiny budget, we launched a print and online campaign along with a website (www.newspaperproject.org) and more than 300 newspapers supported our efforts by donating space. As our work continues, we welcome your feedback on what we can to do stimulate productive discussion and debate about the issues we all confront. Maybe we can even get you to write a piece for us exploring your ideas about how newspapers need to embrace social networking.

    Regards,

    Randy
    Randy Siegel
    President & Publisher
    PARADE Publications

  • Donna Barrett

    It is good to see that our modest, grassroots project started a conversation. I’m afraid there have been some misinterpretations, however. We are not tied to paper. Showing support for the printed product does not take away from our online strategies. My company (CNHI)grew online revenue by 40% in 2008. We are increasing overall audience through a combination of platforms, and that is as it should be in today’s world. But the bulk of our revenue still comes from traditional newspapers. That won’t always be true, but it is true today.
    Trouble is, there is a lot of misinformation about what is happening with newspapers. Newspapers (the printed versions) still enjoy a substantial audience, more dominant in most communities than any other news source. Yes, some readers have migrated online…to our news sites. Advertising revenue, not readership, is the problem. The recession has taken a serious toll on all advertising-based businesses, including television, radio, even sponsor-reliant NASCAR and MLB. We are no different. It is also true that many (not all) newspapers have been impacted by Craigslist. Newspapers still deliver results, but it’s hard to complete against “free.” The business model is certainly in transition, but we need to be sure we put the focus on the right areas. This is a revenue crisis, not an audience crisis. We need to set the record straight before we scare off all of our customers and become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  • http://newsafternewspapers.blogspot.com/ Martin Langeveld

    Hi Randy and Donna:
    I’m glad you’ve weighed in; this should absolutely be an online, open conversation, carried out online, in the open, on the record, and not behind closed doors at API or elsewhere. I hope that the NewspaperProject will become more transparent (in an “About Us” page!), that the promotional campaign will continue (and not peter out as prior campaigns by the NAA did), that the ads will cite sources, and that the focus will clearly be the necessary online-first (print later) future of news enterprises.

    You are absolutely welcome to use my prior post on social networking: Building social networks around news.

    I do take issue with Donna’s statement that readership is not the problem. I linked to Journalism.org’s 2008 “State of the News Media,” the charts in which paint a clear picture of the continuing circulation losses and in particular, the readership by age group showing the demographic skew that is at the heart of the newspaper problem. That readership skew is behind the relentless drop in share of total ad revenue that newspapers have experienced for the last 50 years, a drop that has become precipitous in the last few years, and that will not be reversed. That younger audience has not simply shifted to the online version of the same papers, as is made clear on that page:

    “So does that mean that online gains make up for print losses? Not exactly.

    “Unique visitors per month is the most frequently used measure of Web traffic. But clearly a visit or several in the course of the month (for free) is in no way comparable to the purchase of a single day’s issue in print.

    “A second important metric is time spent on site. By the Newspaper Association’s calculation in the third-quarter, the average visitor to newspaper Web sites spent 43 minutes on them in the course of the month, a modest increase over the average of 42 minutes in the period a year earlier. But that works out to less than a minute and a half a day (and is a measurement of visits to all newspaper sites including the popular national ones like those of the New York Times, Washington Post and USA Today). By contrast, a typical newspaper reader spends about 40 minute a day on a given issue.”

    Obviously, that’s where the challenge lies. I’ve been clear in my posts that print is not dead, and I don’t think it will be, for a long time — but it can’t survive on a daily basis. The solution lies in moving, not incrementally, but strategically, to a more sustainable mix of online and print. I’ve put forward the view that the right model is an online first news enterprise with a weekend edition published on Friday.

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  • http://www.digitaldeliverance.com Vin Crosbie

    Ditto what Martin said. Moreover, I’m curious exactly what the ‘misinformation’ is that you folks behind this effort say you are trying to correct. So far, ‘misinformation’ appears to be a ‘straw man’ argument. I worry that what you are saying is itself in the realm of misinformation, and that your effort, no matter how well-intentioned, might be stillborn because of it.

    For instance, you claim that readership is increasing. Yet I’ve not seen any such claims that don’t conflate the DAILY printed circulation number and the number of MONTHLY online users. Is someone who uses a daily newspaper’s Web site once per month the same as a daily reader of print edition? Since when did daily newspapers become monthly publications?

    Look at the data. For example, Nielsen’s six-month figures from March through August 2007 showed that The Boston Globe had 3.798 million visitors during an average month in that period. Does this mean that the Globe had a ‘combined audience’ of 4.158 million readers (360K in print and 3.798M online)? I ask because the same Nielson report states that the average user of the Globe’s Web site visited only 3.22 times per month (in other words, approximately once only every ten days), and saw only 19 Web pages and spent only 14 minutes and 19 seconds on that site all month long (probably less time than a Globe print reader spends per day).

    Monthly user counts are rife with infrequent visits. In his critique, Martyn mentioned NAA data about NYTimes.com. Nielsen’s figures for that newspaper in period I mentioned above are 4.05 visits per month, and 27 Web pages and a total of 20 minutes and 20 seconds spent on the site all month long. So, on which of those 4.05 days per month should the advertiser place his ad in that daily newspaper’s Web site? Mixing daily and monthly usage data is mixing apples and oranges. Yet every claims I’ve seen that newspapers’ readerships and audiences are rising is based upon that misarithmetic. It’s disingenous and misinforms.

    Likewise statements that online revenues are rising 20%, 30%, 40%, or even 50% per year. Sounds great but doesn’t withstand a peek behind the curtain. Newspaper online revenue has been rising 20% to 50% during each of the past ten years. The problem is it’ll have to continue rising at those rates (unlikely) for another ten years before it even starts to reverse the titanic monetary declines in print edition revenues. According to NAA data, for example, between 2006 and 2007 total online newspaper revenues grew 18.8% while print ad revenues declined 9.4%. Subtract the latter from the former and you can allude that it’s a net gain of 9.4% because online grew double the percentage that print did. However, the reality is the 18.8% online increase was from $2.664 billion to $3.166 billion (a gain of $502 million) while the 9.4% print decline was from $46.661 billion to $42.209 billion (a loss of $4.452 billion). The online increase would have needed to be 167% (rather than 18.8%) that year, just to keep the ship from sinking further. And the situation was almost certainly worse in 2008 and will likely be much worse in 2009.

    Daily newspapers aren’t hurting because of misperceptions. Circulation and readership didn’t markedly decline in proportion to population during the past 25 years because of misperceptions. Advertisers aren’t increasingly abandoning newspapers because of mispercentions (online advertising and CraigsList aren’t fads). Publicly-held newspaper companies’ equity values and market capitalizations haven’t declined by 75% to 99% during the past five years — a period mostly pre-recession — because of misperceptions.

    I’m glad that you support our industry. But don’t cherry-pick data. Stop using it out of context. Don’t conflate figures. The American newspaper industry has spent 250 years building its credibility. Don’t Baghdad Bob our industry when it needs a stronger defense. Your efforts may be well-intentioned, but your time would be better spent radically revamping the products you produce, because your customers (readers and advertisers) are rejecting those in ever-increasing numbers.

  • http://tantrapantry.blogspot.com/2009/01/does-this-article-provide-food-for.html Todd B.

    Hey Bill, hey Carlos, thanks for the little circle-j ending to your conversation. I was hoping to read an actual “solution” to the dilemma, but … aren’t we all in the same boat? We can critique the folks in charge who have led us to the gates of hell, or we can bolster their deluded quest to maintain the status quo, in hopes that somehow things will just “get better.” Yet in the end, we’ll all be out of a job. People read news online: That is the reality now, and moreso in the future. Either sell the product via Web, or cease to offer a product. There is no alternative.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    Todd,

    I’m a Print evangelist not a newspaper person, but the “sky is falling” stuff has been rampant in our industry for years, so a lot of it sounds familiar.

    At any rate, I thought I would weigh in with what it looks like from the outside.

    1. Newspaper companies are in trouble because of the massive debt they have incurred. The secular decline in readership has been going on since the 70′s. Profit was fine until advertising imploded.

    2. The fact is that readers are a niche market. Most people view, scan, search Printed newspapers. Companies like the New Yorker have the best handle on the niche market of readers. Because of that fan base they seem successful with a read for free, pay for print, buy the stuff we make model.

    3. The web is for talking, searching, and viewing. It is actually Telephone + TV +Search +a big filing cabinet+ the cheapest way to buy stuff every invented.

    4. Print is for scanning, searching and reading for the mass market in phsyical space.

    5. Since the real estate on the web is unlimited, the cost is going to continue to go down. Since the real estate in Print is limited, the cost can be stable. But it’s a location, location, location issue. If the Print is inserted in the right location with the right content, the advertising sell should be easy.

    6. Newspapers should use the web to find and nurture tribes of fans. Data analytics are a big help. The number and quality of conversations started are a great place to start.

    7. Once tribes and loyal fans are identified make stuff to sell them on the newspapers own website.
    Why pay a publisher rent when the newspaper’s own website reaches the most probable buyers of a book produced by their staff. Given that the logistics of book printing and delivery have become trivial, publishing channels are a bug not a feature.

    For the not readers, which is most of the audience, sell them posters, t shirts and tote bags.

    8. Newspapers should consider the long tail of their content as a monetizable value. Consider replacing textbooks with targeted editions for students in K-12 focused on history, science, business, etc etc etc. Textbooks are another industry who’s value add is disappearing. Newspapers have massive under used capacity in their classrooms + they already give away copies of their editions as part of a “do good” program.

    9. Reporters should be organized in teams of three to cover beats. Start with beats that are interesting to a potential fan base. Focus on that beat as a way to do business. Stop putting resources into following the news cycle. Devote the same place in the paper to that beat coverage.
    As appropriate, print a special edition for the fans of that beat. As appropriate, print and sell and book covering that beat.

    The same thing works for printing companies. Find your fans. Sell them stuff.

  • http://www.timwindsor.com/ Tim Windsor

    Michael J,

    I really like #8 and #9. Both think about “the product” in new ways.

  • http://www.timwindsor.com/ Tim Windsor

    Martin,

    One thing that I’d completely missed until just now: This project is NOT from the NAA. After years of wan attempts at promotion from NAA, it looks like the industry is self-organizing around a different center.

    Despite the missteps of this particular execution, that can’t help but be a good thing.

  • http://newsafternewspapers.blogspot.com/ Martin Langeveld

    Tim, that’s correct, it’s not NAA. I mentioned NAA in my comment, but not to imply any connection.

    Vin, thanks for excellent stats backing up my contentions.

    Michael J.: Great suggestions. As I say from time to time, print is not dead. I especially like #6, and intend to return to the subject of “cafe-sized conversations” in the necessary social networks built around news.

  • http://www.timwindsor.com/ Tim Windsor

    Martin,

    Not at all – I just thought it was interesting that there’s a rogue operation underway. There’s hope for the old patient yet!

  • Donna Barrett

    As one of the rogues in question, let me be the first to say that MichaelJ’s summary of the business crisis in his first point is dead-on accurate. Most traditional newspapers are still very profitable enterprises, but many are not producing enough profit to cover their debt. This is an internal industry issue that should not be misinterpreted and played out of context to our readers and advertisers, but that is exactly what we have been doing. Newspapers deliver a strong audience and results, which is what our advertisers should be focused on in this difficult economy.

  • http://newcommons.com Frymaster

    If the Internet is the future of newspapers and if social media is the future of the Internet, then social media is the future of newspapers. Or at least for those that can deal successfully with that reality. How many will?

    Randy articulates a critical disconnect that newspapers need to understand and resolve in order to survive when he says:

    …newspaper companies must accelerate their development of innovative products that meet the news and information needs of consumers in multiple formats

    .
    In the world of social media, there are no consumers. There are users, lurkers, trolls, contributors, hyper-contributors — all kinds of people, but virtually no consumers. Sure, all these people buy stuff. But if you think of them as “consumers” you might as well close up shop today.

    If you don’t understand what this means, I commend the following to your edification:

    Cluetrain This 1999 book/website nails 95 theses to the front door of the Internet. Two of the authors are now fellows at Harvard’s Berkman Center. (Thesis #74: We are immune to advertising. Just forget it.)

    Clay Shirky’s ‘Cognitive Surplus’ Presentation Video of NYU professor explaining the importance of participatory media. (“Even a 4-year-old knows that a screen that ships without a mouse ships broken.”)

    This thinking is primary to social media. And it is, in general, consonant with the kinds of suggestions that people like Martin and MichaelJ have been making.

    The real problem, IMO, is that “the newspapers” seem to think of themselves as being in a position to determine how business on the Internet is going to work. Not possible.

    Banner CPMs will continue to fall, search advertising will continue to gain in share. That newspapers are on the outside looking in at search advertising indicates how badly they misunderstood the Internet. If a newspaper website is anything, it is an aggregation of data that people want to get at.

    A decade ago, Cluetrain accurately predicted the importance of a relevance-based approach on the Internet. Google’s stellar success proves it out. Newspapers have done what to position themselves for success in this new arena? That’s what I thought.

    Final word: stop talking the talk and start walking the walk. Don’t sell ads, build community. (You remember that, right?)

    PS. First comment here, so hoping the tags render.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    Frymaster,
    We disagree. The underlying premise of most of the public discourse is seriously flawed. You said,
    “If the Internet is the future of newspapers and if social media is the future of the Internet, then social media is the future of newspapers.”

    But the internet is not the future of newspapers, except as a way to make the production of newspapers faster, better and cheaper. The internet is infrastructure. It is Telephone +TV + Search + a big filing cabinet + and the best way to buy and sell stuff every invented.

    The confusion comes from the fact that newspapers were the infrastructure for regional information for many, many years. Infrastructure is a good business.

    Journalism for many newspapers is a nice to have, not a must have. Some local reporting + rewrites for the AP and other services, filled most of the news hole most of the time for most of the newspapers.

    The enormous benefit of the internet for newspapers is that is now much easier to identify the interests of their viewers. By doing smart analytics they can analyze which viewers are going to which article. As geo location comes on line it will be easier and easier to learn where they live.

    Given the most recent advances in web offset printing re versioning etc, that means that versioned editions can be placed in physical neighborhoods.

    Assuming that the buying ad functionality is made dirt simple, that means that a completely new market of local advertising is now available to support Print.

    Social media to create community, not for newspapers. People on the ground are already creating communities on the net faster and larger than any newspaper could do.

    Social media carefully monitored and measured to continuously improve your understanding about what your viewers think AND where they live.

    That makes lots more sense, because then you can innovate new stuff to sell them. Given the eyeballs on most newspaper website, that means the elimination of unnecessary sales channels that are slow and expensive, lower prices to the customer, more profit to the newspaper.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    let me add one example of what I am trying to say that I noticed recently.

    The New York Times or an outside publisher, I’m sure which, produced a book on Obama’s campaign, or something close to that.

    They set a pub date of “President’s Day.” From what I understand about publishing that probably means that the books are well advanced in the channel. The books were printed, probably in boxes at the stores.

    Consider how many more books would have been sold and what the increased profit to the Times might have been if the book were offered on the website, with ads that were presented on the web near every article about the inauguration, and sold directly from a logistics firm that was contracted by the Times.

    I am only looking at this from the outside, so I am wrong in details. But in any case it is a good example of finding the audience, using excess talent to innovate stuff for them, and sell it to them at a low cost with a good profit.

  • http://newcommons.com Frymaster

    I think we’ll have to agree to disagree. I like your book publishing example, but wonder why this basic approach wouldn’t work for every article with highly relevant and, therefore, effective text ads served instead of poorly targeted, irrelevant banners. (Relevant to content, not to assumptions about user.) So much is possible when you get out from under the ‘old media’ model.

    On ‘things that make sense,’ my experience is that it’s a poor approach in the modern web where ‘counterintuitive’ is my watchword. It makes sense that Yahoo’s approach of advertiser-centric/big media would be more successful than Google’s user-centric/advertiser-restrictive/long tail approach. But that’s not the case at all. Google, to the surprise of all the ‘experts’ is just killing every other competitor. It’s not even close.

    Can’t say more. Gotta set up for my 4pm drop-in session on – you guessed it – using social media.

    Cheers.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    Agreeing to disagree is a pleasure. For a Print evangelist it is much better than I’ve experienced over the last ten years.

    Here’s a place where we do agree “why this basic approach wouldn’t work for every article with highly relevant and, therefore, effective text ads served instead of poorly targeted, irrelevant banners.”

    Until the computer algorithm is developed, this might mean a much closer relationship between the team that positions content and the team that places advertising.

    As for counter intuitive, I would counter that purpose of discussions in a context of intellectual honesty is to get from intuition to an operational definition of what’s going on so that people who have to can make better predictions of the consequences of their decisions.

    That’s why agreeing to disagree creates so much value.

    Hope your drop-in session went ok.

  • R.F. Stinson

    All of you (some more than others) are whistling past the graveyard.
    If any newspaper model survives (and I have my doubts), it will be the early 20th century one featuring digital tabloids sold on cyberspace street corners, produced by aggressive entrepreneurs.
    Why?
    Because such a model begins with the interests of prospective readers and not with the concerns of self-important editors, “college-trained” reporters and contest-driven egoists, who now dominate our profession.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    RF,
    You make a point about “self-important editors,etc.”

    But it’s not a newspaper problem, it’s a general formal organization problem. The phrase works as well with “senators, auto executives, our last President, school principals, University Presidents.”

    If you put a qualifier in front of it, as in “SOME” “self-important etc” it’s a useful statement about reality.

    But disruptive technologies lead to disruptions in the communication ecology. People who have to spend most of their day in a bubble have a very serious signal v noise problem. It”s the echo chamber effect that explains how good, smart, hard working people can make really bad decisions.

    The good news is that a discussion such as this one might help amplify the signal from the ground to cut through the noise up in management circles.

    As for your prediction.

    Once the focus on the “interests of prospective readers” is changed, versioned Print + web + delivery trucks can pretty much deliver the same customer experience you describe.

    Epaper, kindle’s and whatever comes along will be great for serving niche markets and identifying fans.

    10,000 Kindle subscribers for the NYT is still a tiny niche of 46 million page views on the web. Maybe it will grow to 100,000 or 200,000 with the next release over time. At a $9 monthly subscription fee that could turn into a nice revenue stream.

    But newspaper don’t have time. Mostly because of debt obligations.

    Netflix destroyed Blockbuster. In ten years, Google reinvented advertising. The trick is not where it’s going to end up. The proximate problem is how to get from here to there, and still maintain the position you’ve earned over the last 100 years.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    Just wanted to put on the table one model of the kind of innovation that is a potential threat to legacy newspaper organizations.

    From their website:
    We at The Printed Blog believe that there will always be a readership for off-screen, printed media- but in order for that media to survive, it must leverage the best information technology has to offer. Through the integration of online social networks and web-based syndication technologies, The Printed Blog is tapping into the wellspring of brilliant bloggers that has revolutionized collective media. As our society moves towards individualized information, The Printed Blog has the courage to respect our readers. We recognize the value of what individuals have to say, we publish the information they create, and provide them with the information they demand.

    Why rely on a handful of outmoded sources, when you know there is great content out there? We know you are writing, learning, DIGGing, and sharing – this isn’t about the newspaper, this is about you.

    here’s the link:
    http://www.theprintedblog.com/company.php

  • R.F. Stinson

    Michael, do you mind my asking your age and occupation (i.e. what you do to pay your bills)?

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  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    @RF-
    30 years running a print brokerage, 7 years teaching designers about production at Parsons, now grandpa, semi retired and get involved in interesting projects as a consultant…I’m a leading edge Boomer. graduated college in ’67

  • R. F. Stinson

    I thought we might have a worldview somewhat in common. (I am a 69-year-old retired newspaper columnist.)
    Somebody should hire us to fix this mess.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    The downside is that we would have to come out of retirement. Have a boss or a client. And not have enough time to play with the grand kids. I say we already did our job. Let this generation do theirs.

    If we can help, we’ll help. Maybe make a little cash on the side to keep the stress level down.

  • http://www.myfortdodge.com/ Bill Grady

    Even if any of us had “the answer”, it’s still up to each individual to execute it the right way for our business and our market.

    What made me think after my last post with Carlos (# 11) is that while it is a discussion about business, and we’re not talking face-to-face (which has it’s liberties in either being honest or rude – you pick) it’s still another human being at the end of the line that may have challenges in business like me that are not always fun. It was that “take a deep breath” approach that I wanted to leave our conversation, and not to have a continuous “I’m going to win this point no matter what” post that we’ve all seen before.

    Ideas are one thing, but the execution of the idea is a totally different animal. I see the potential in digital, but I don’t have to look people in the eye and tell them they no longer have a job to make that transition. Others may not want to give up the printed page yet, but possibly will miss out on the digital lifeboat (my opinion) for their survival if they wait too long. And some will jump in with the right answer but fail because the implementation was wrong, and visa versa.

    The next part of the solution isn’t constant debate, but feedback and reports from people who are trying new things in the real business world. In front of customers, readers, and staff. How’s it working, what would they change, who’s got a new idea from within. Real world stuff in action, taking the hits or getting some wins. The “here’s what I’d do” needs to be replaced by “here’s what I’m doing, and here’s how it’s going”. If this site is nothing than a debate, a defense, or a warehouse of feel good stories then it may become nothing more than the time waster none of us needed.

    Martin, thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts, opinions, and ideas.

  • http://sellingprint.blogspot.com MichaelJ

    Bill,
    Exactly!
    I think the rules are ideas are free. Execution creates value.

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